Re: Water tight opt-in (yet another FUSSP)

On Sun 29/Dec/2013 18:56:25 +0100 Gordon Peterson wrote:
> This whole thing seems to me like a solution in search of a problem.   I
> don't believe that most ISPs want to serve as intermediaries between
> their users and (legitimate, at least) list services.
> 
> I've been involved with (say) Yahoogroups for more than ten years. You
> subscribe, you get an e-mailed confirmation request, you reply to that
> by e-mail, and you're in.  You unsubscribe either at the website, or
> with an e-mail message (again, confirmed).  Just not a problem.

98% agree, as Yahoogroups and classical mailing lists (like this one)
are respectful of users' privacy.  There are still two points (to 100%):
 One is that list owners have no evidence of subscription, should it be
needed.  The other point is that IMAP and webmail users can get the
ability to direct specific mail streams to specific folders in their
mailbox, at the same time as they confirm subscriptions.

> Those of us that use Thunderbird mail client software, in the case of
> prolific repeating list services and companies that don't respect
> unsubscribe requests, it's easy enough to set up a mail filter rule that
> just t-cans all incoming mail from that address or domain.

Some senders use several domains and IP addresses.  And some users read
mail from multiple clients.  For disrespectful senders, eliminating the
corresponding disposable address is way more effective.  That's where
this solution pays off, also due to the fortunate coincidence that such
senders often promise to never disclose addresses.  Since, unlike
mailing lists, personal replies are not possible, users can exploit
obscurely tagged addresses without worries.

Ale
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