Re: CAP-12-e: Alarms and SEQUENCE

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Doug wrote on 10/31/2003 05:16:09 PM:
> Better yet, an example of when MODIFY breaks.
> 
> Take TWO VLARMS that are identical in one component.
> Withou a unique identifier  - you can not uniquly identify  the 2nd 
> instance.

I claim that this is a non-sensical / practical case to use.  (Plus its 
the only one I could think of too.)

We dont allow multiple VDAYLIGHTs or VSTANDARDs with the exact same data 
to be a single VTIMEZONE and yet consider the defintions to be different. 
We do not allow 2 VEVENTs in the same calendar to have the exact same set 
of properties and subcomponents yet call them different VEVENTs.  We even 
said in iCalendar that repeat instances for the same date/time are to be 
treated a single instance.  So why would we now invent this different 
consideration for VALARMs?

Taking a practical look I have to chuckle at the suggestion (not at you 
personally Doug) that a CU would want or actually use 2 identical VALARMs 
yet consider them separate.  In all my C&S time Ive yet to hear of any 
shipping product that allowed the user to create 2 identical alarms that 
were separate nor have I heard of users actually asking for it.

After all, what exactly is the practical use for 2 simultaneous & 
identical AUDIO VALARMs that play the same sound at the same time? Does it 
play louder?  Or is it in Stero vs Mono?

Is there any actual use for having 2 PROCEDURAL alarms that run the exact 
same code at the exact same time? 

What about sending off 2 identical email notices to the exact same set of 
ATTENDEEs at the exact same time?

I dont see how having 2 DISPLAY VALARMs triggering at the same time with 
the same information is really a big ticket item on any users wish list. 

Since we have autorepeating VALARMs (which means the VALARM could repeat, 
say, 1 second later for 15 times if I really really wanted it to) and we 
can have multiple VALARMs on any given entry, I see no real need to have 
multiple identical copies of VALARMs and to change iCalendar. 

Bruce
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