[ippm] Re: [CCAMP]Re: Working group adoption poll on d raft-yoon-ccamp-pm-streaming-04
<[email protected]> Fri, 3 Apr 2026 22:46:04 +0900
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This is a multipart message in MIME format. --===============7477403146662945533== Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_13A4_01DCC3BB.A7546960" Content-Language: ko This is a multipart message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_13A4_01DCC3BB.A7546960 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Med, =20 Thank you for clarifying. We take the concern regarding CCAMP charter fit seriously. We also agree that the current draft would benefit from a clearer statement of scope. = Our intention is not to define a broadly technology-agnostic PM model, and = we recognize that some of the current wording may give that impression. If you could identify the specific sections or text that appear = problematic with respect to the WG charter, that would be very helpful to us. Such guidance would assist us in reviewing the draft more carefully and in refining the text to make the intended scope clearer. =20 Regards, Bin From: [email protected] <[email protected]>=20 Sent: Friday, April 3, 2026 9:53 PM To: [email protected]; 'Qin Wu' <bill.wu=3D40huawei.com-Tr9gZwTxerDR74oF6e/[email protected]>; [email protected] Cc: [email protected]; Ketan Talaulikar <[email protected]> Subject: RE: [ippm] Re: [CCAMP]Re: Working group adoption poll on draft-yoon-ccamp-pm-streaming-04 =20 Hi Bin, all, =20 Thank you for clarifying and for Qin for sharing this CFA. =20 I tend to agree with Qin=92s observation. The model is too generic. =20 With that in mind, and in order to avoid late surprises (and frustration = for authors and WG), I recommend to check that doc falls under the WG = charter. As currently written, my assessment is that it is not within scope as = ccamp focuses on non-packet technology-specific per the following (and similar mentions in the charter): =20 =3D=3D - Definition of data models and management objects for network control = and management of ** non-packet technology-specific ** network elements, topologies, and abstractions. =3D=3D =20 Unless the scope is changed, generic methods and models do not belong to CCAMP. =20 Let=92s please clarify this before making any further action. =20 Thank you. =20 Cheers, Med =20 De : [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> >=20 Envoy=E9 : vendredi 3 avril 2026 14:40 =C0 : 'Qin Wu' <bill.wu=3D40huawei.com-Tr9gZwTxerDR74oF6e/[email protected] <mailto:bill.wu=3D40huawei.com-Tr9gZwTxerDR74oF6e/[email protected]> >; [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>=20 Cc : [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>=20 Objet : [ippm] Re: [CCAMP]Re: Working group adoption poll on draft-yoon-ccamp-pm-streaming-04 =20 =20 Hi Qin Wu, =20 Thank you for your comments and for forwarding the adoption poll call to = the IPPM WG.=20 Please see our brief responses below. =20 1. On the applicability of CCAMP We believe CCAMP is the appropriate venue for this work. CCAMP covers a broad range of non-packet physical and transport-facing technologies and interfaces, including OXCs, OEO switches, ROADMs, TDM switches, transponders, muxponders, optical amplifiers, microwave links, Ethernet switches, and optical pluggables. Because CCAMP addresses such a diverse = set of physical interfaces and transport technologies, a generic model = within CCAMP is needed as a common framework, while allowing = technology-specific extensions where necessary. In this sense, the draft is intended as a generic and extensible PM streaming model for network equipment in the = CCAMP context, rather than an IPPM-style framework for IP-layer performance metrics. Also, the IPPM charter states that its work is limited to metrics and methodologies applicable over transport-layer protocols over IP, and = does not specify measurements over non-IP layers. For this reason, we believe CCAMP is the better fit for this draft.=20 =20 2. On the distinction between measurement interval and reporting = interval We agree that this distinction should be clarified further in the draft. = Our intent is that the sampling interval defines how often raw PM data is collected, while the measurement interval defines the period over which = the sampled data is aggregated or processed. The reporting interval, by contrast, concerns when notifications are delivered to subscribers, = e.g., via the subscription period in YANG Push. We will revise the text to = make this distinction more explicit in the next version. =20 Regards, Bin =20 From: Qin Wu <bill.wu=3D40huawei.com-Tr9gZwTxerDR74oF6e/[email protected] <mailto:bill.wu=3D40huawei.com-Tr9gZwTxerDR74oF6e/[email protected]> >=20 Sent: Friday, April 3, 2026 8:38 PM To: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>=20 Cc: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>=20 Subject: [CCAMP]Re: Working group adoption poll on draft-yoon-ccamp-pm-streaming-04 =20 Hi, Authors: I forward this adoption poll call to IPPM WG since It seems to me that = this draft more focuses on generic measurement method and metrics and not specific to optical network. One quick comment to measurement timing, if = my understanding is correct, this measurement timing is used to measure = metrics or KPIs within network element, the measuring timing parameters include time-related parameters of sampling, measuring, and reporting = performance data. I am wondering whether measuring interval is same as reporting interval, since I didn=92t see reporting interval is specified in this = draft. =20 -Qin [CCAMP]Working group adoption poll on draft-yoon-ccamp-pm-streaming-04 "Daniele Ceccarelli (dceccare)" <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > Fri, 20 March 2026 07:40 UTC <https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/ccamp/_mpRnupqH9A9MBRTm-O3l2Ko1Mk/= > Show header Hi working group, =20 As discussed during the CCAMP session at IETF 125 we're starting the = working group adoption call on draft-yoon-ccamp-pm-streaming-04. =20 The polling will last 2 weeks till Friday April 3rd. =20 =20 Thanks, Daniele, Fatai, Luis =20 _________________________________________________________________________= ___ ________________________________ Ce message et ses pieces jointes peuvent contenir des informations confidentielles ou privilegiees et ne doivent donc pas etre diffuses, exploites ou copies sans autorisation. 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We also agree that the = current draft would benefit from a clearer statement of scope. Our = intention is not to define a broadly technology-agnostic PM model, and = we recognize that some of the current wording may give that = impression.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal = style=3D'word-break:break-hangul'><span lang=3DEN-US = style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Malgun Gothic"'>If you could = identify the specific sections or text that appear problematic with = respect to the WG charter, that would be very helpful to us. Such = guidance would assist us in reviewing the draft more carefully and in = refining the text to make the intended scope = clearer.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal = style=3D'word-break:break-hangul'><span lang=3DEN-US = style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Malgun = Gothic"'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal = style=3D'word-break:break-hangul'><span lang=3DEN-US = style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Malgun = Gothic"'>Regards,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal = style=3D'word-break:break-hangul'><span lang=3DEN-US = style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Malgun = Gothic"'>Bin<o:p></o:p></span></p><div><div = style=3D'border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm = 0cm 0cm'><p class=3DMsoNormal align=3Dleft = style=3D'text-align:left'><b><span lang=3DEN-US = style=3D'font-size:11.0pt'>From:</span></b><span lang=3DEN-US = style=3D'font-size:11.0pt'> [email protected] = <[email protected]> <br><b>Sent:</b> Friday, April 3, = 2026 9:53 PM<br><b>To:</b> [email protected]; 'Qin Wu' = <bill.wu=3D40huawei.com-Tr9gZwTxerDR74oF6e/[email protected]>; = [email protected]<br><b>Cc:</b> [email protected]; Ketan Talaulikar = <[email protected]><br><b>Subject:</b> RE: [ippm] Re: = [CCAMP]Re: Working group adoption poll on = draft-yoon-ccamp-pm-streaming-04<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p = class=3DMsoNormal align=3Dleft style=3D'text-align:left'><span = lang=3DEN-US><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span = lang=3DEN-US style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Courier = New";mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>Hi Bin, all,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p = class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-US = style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Courier = New";mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p = class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-US = style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Courier = New";mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>Thank you for clarifying and for Qin = for sharing this CFA.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span = lang=3DEN-US style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Courier = New";mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p = class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-US = style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Courier = New";mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>I tend to agree with Qin’s = observation. The model is too generic.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p = class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-US = style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Courier = New";mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p = class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-US = style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Courier = New";mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>With that in mind, and in order to = avoid late surprises (and frustration for authors and WG), I recommend = to check that doc falls under the WG charter. As currently written, my = assessment is that it is not within scope as ccamp focuses on non-packet = technology-specific per the following (and similar mentions in the = charter):<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-US = style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Courier = New";mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p = class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-US = style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Courier = New";mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>=3D=3D<o:p></o:p></span></p><p = class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-US = style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Courier = New";mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>- Definition of data models and = management objects for network control and management of ** non-packet = technology-specific ** network elements, topologies, and = abstractions.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span = lang=3DEN-US style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Courier = New";mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>=3D=3D<o:p></o:p></span></p><p = class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-US = style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Courier = New";mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p = class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-US = style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Courier = New";mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>Unless the scope is changed, generic = methods and models do not belong to CCAMP.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p = class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-US = style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Courier = New";mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p = class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-US = style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Courier = New";mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>Let’s please clarify this before = making any further action.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p = class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-US = style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Courier = New";mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p = class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-US = style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Courier = New";mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>Thank you.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p = class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-US = style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Courier = New";mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p = class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-US = style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Courier = New";mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>Cheers,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p = class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-US = style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Courier = New";mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>Med<o:p></o:p></span></p><p = class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-US = style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Courier = New";mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div = style=3D'border:none;border-left:solid blue 1.5pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm = 4.0pt'><div><div style=3D'border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 = 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm'><p class=3DMsoNormal align=3Dleft = style=3D'text-align:left'><b><span lang=3DFR = style=3D'font-size:11.0pt'>De :</span></b><span lang=3DFR = style=3D'font-size:11.0pt'> <a = href=3D"mailto:[email protected]">[email protected]</a> <<a = href=3D"mailto:[email protected]">[email protected]</a>> = <br><b>Envoy=E9 :</b> vendredi 3 avril 2026 = 14:40<br><b>=C0 :</b> 'Qin Wu' <<a = href=3D"mailto:bill.wu=3D40huawei.com-Tr9gZwTxerDR74oF6e/[email protected]">bill.wu=3D40huawei.= com-Tr9gZwTxerDR74oF6e/[email protected]</a>>; <a = href=3D"mailto:[email protected]">[email protected]</a><br><b>Cc :</b> <a = href=3D"mailto:[email protected]">[email protected]</a><br><b>Objet :</b> = [ippm] Re: [CCAMP]Re: Working group adoption poll on = draft-yoon-ccamp-pm-streaming-04<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p = class=3DMsoNormal align=3Dleft style=3D'text-align:left'><span = lang=3DFR><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal align=3Dleft = style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt;text-align:left'><span lang=3DFR = style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Aptos",serif'><o:p> </o:p></s= pan></p><pre style=3D'background:white'><span lang=3DEN-US = style=3D'font-size:9.0pt;font-family:Monaco;color:#212529;mso-fareast-lan= guage:ZH-CN'>Hi Qin Wu,<o:p></o:p></span></pre><pre = style=3D'background:white'><span lang=3DEN-US = style=3D'font-size:9.0pt;font-family:Monaco;color:#212529;mso-fareast-lan= guage:ZH-CN'><o:p> </o:p></span></pre><pre = style=3D'background:white'><span lang=3DEN-US = style=3D'font-size:9.0pt;font-family:Monaco;color:#212529;mso-fareast-lan= guage:ZH-CN'>Thank you for your comments and for forwarding the adoption = poll call to the IPPM WG. <o:p></o:p></span></pre><pre = style=3D'background:white'><span lang=3DEN-US = style=3D'font-size:9.0pt;font-family:Monaco;color:#212529;mso-fareast-lan= guage:ZH-CN'>Please see our brief responses = below.<o:p></o:p></span></pre><pre style=3D'background:white'><span = lang=3DEN-US = style=3D'font-size:9.0pt;font-family:Monaco;color:#212529;mso-fareast-lan= guage:ZH-CN'><o:p> </o:p></span></pre><pre = style=3D'background:white'><span lang=3DEN-US = style=3D'font-size:9.0pt;font-family:Monaco;color:#212529;mso-fareast-lan= guage:ZH-CN'>1. On the applicability of = CCAMP<o:p></o:p></span></pre><pre style=3D'background:white'><span = lang=3DEN-US = style=3D'font-size:9.0pt;font-family:Monaco;color:#212529;mso-fareast-lan= guage:ZH-CN'>We believe CCAMP is the appropriate venue for this work. = CCAMP covers a broad range of non-packet physical and transport-facing = technologies and interfaces, including OXCs, OEO switches, ROADMs, TDM = switches, transponders, muxponders, optical amplifiers, microwave links, = Ethernet switches, and optical pluggables. Because CCAMP addresses such = a diverse set of physical interfaces and transport technologies, a = generic model within CCAMP is needed as a common framework, while = allowing technology-specific extensions where necessary. In this sense, = the draft is intended as a generic and extensible PM streaming model for = network equipment in the CCAMP context, rather than an IPPM-style = framework for IP-layer performance metrics.<o:p></o:p></span></pre><pre = style=3D'background:white'><span lang=3DEN-US = style=3D'font-size:9.0pt;font-family:Monaco;color:#212529;mso-fareast-lan= guage:ZH-CN'>Also, the IPPM charter states that its work is limited to = metrics and methodologies applicable over transport-layer protocols over = IP, and does not specify measurements over non-IP layers. For this = reason, we believe CCAMP is the better fit for this draft. = <o:p></o:p></span></pre><pre style=3D'background:white'><span = lang=3DEN-US = style=3D'font-size:9.0pt;font-family:Monaco;color:#212529;mso-fareast-lan= guage:ZH-CN'><o:p> </o:p></span></pre><pre = style=3D'background:white'><span lang=3DEN-US = style=3D'font-size:9.0pt;font-family:Monaco;color:#212529;mso-fareast-lan= guage:ZH-CN'>2. On the distinction between measurement interval and = reporting interval<o:p></o:p></span></pre><pre = style=3D'background:white'><span lang=3DEN-US = style=3D'font-size:9.0pt;font-family:Monaco;color:#212529;mso-fareast-lan= guage:ZH-CN'>We agree that this distinction should be clarified further = in the draft. Our intent is that the sampling interval defines how often = raw PM data is collected, while the measurement interval defines the = period over which the sampled data is aggregated or processed. The = reporting interval, by contrast, concerns when notifications are = delivered to subscribers, e.g., via the subscription period in YANG = Push. We will revise the text to make this distinction more explicit in = the next version.<o:p></o:p></span></pre><pre = style=3D'background:white'><span lang=3DEN-US = style=3D'font-size:9.0pt;font-family:Monaco;color:#212529;mso-fareast-lan= guage:ZH-CN'><o:p> </o:p></span></pre><pre = style=3D'background:white'><span lang=3DEN-US = style=3D'font-size:9.0pt;font-family:Monaco;color:#212529;mso-fareast-lan= guage:ZH-CN'>Regards,<o:p></o:p></span></pre><pre = style=3D'background:white'><span lang=3DEN-US = style=3D'font-size:9.0pt;font-family:Monaco;color:#212529;mso-fareast-lan= guage:ZH-CN'>Bin<o:p></o:p></span></pre><p class=3DMsoNormal = style=3D'word-break:break-hangul'><span lang=3DEN-US = style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Malgun = Gothic"'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div = style=3D'border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm = 0cm 0cm'><p class=3DMsoNormal align=3Dleft = style=3D'text-align:left'><b><span lang=3DEN-US = style=3D'font-size:11.0pt'>From:</span></b><span lang=3DEN-US = style=3D'font-size:11.0pt'> Qin Wu <<a = href=3D"mailto:bill.wu=3D40huawei.com-Tr9gZwTxerDR74oF6e/[email protected]">bill.wu=3D40huawei.= com-Tr9gZwTxerDR74oF6e/[email protected]</a>> <br><b>Sent:</b> Friday, April 3, 2026 8:38 = PM<br><b>To:</b> <a = href=3D"mailto:[email protected]">[email protected]</a><br><b>Cc:</b> <a = href=3D"mailto:[email protected]">[email protected]</a><br><b>Subject:</b> = [CCAMP]Re: Working group adoption poll on = draft-yoon-ccamp-pm-streaming-04<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p = class=3DMsoNormal align=3Dleft style=3D'text-align:left'><span = lang=3DEN-US><o:p> </o:p></span></p><pre = style=3D'background:white'><span lang=3DEN-US = style=3D'font-size:9.0pt;font-family:Monaco;color:#212529;mso-fareast-lan= guage:ZH-CN'>Hi, Authors:<o:p></o:p></span></pre><pre = style=3D'background:white'><span lang=3DEN-US = style=3D'font-size:9.0pt;font-family:Monaco;color:#212529;mso-fareast-lan= guage:ZH-CN'>I forward this adoption poll call to IPPM WG since It seems = to me that this draft more focuses on generic measurement method and = metrics and not specific to optical network. One quick comment to = measurement timing, if my understanding is correct, this measurement = timing is used to measure metrics or KPIs within network element, the = measuring timing parameters include time-related parameters of sampling, = measuring, and reporting performance data. I am wondering whether = measuring interval is same as reporting interval, since I didn’t = see reporting interval is specified in this = draft.<o:p></o:p></span></pre><h3 = style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:1.5pt;margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:1.5pt;ma= rgin-left:0cm;background:white'><span lang=3DEN-US = style=3D'font-family:"Segoe = UI",sans-serif;color:#212529;mso-fareast-language:ZH-CN;font-weight:norma= l'><o:p> </o:p></span></h3><pre style=3D'background:white'><span = lang=3DEN-US = style=3D'font-size:9.0pt;font-family:Monaco;color:#212529;mso-fareast-lan= guage:ZH-CN'>-Qin<o:p></o:p></span></pre><h3 = style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:1.5pt;margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:1.5pt;ma= rgin-left:0cm;background:white'><span lang=3DEN-US = style=3D'font-family:"Segoe = UI",sans-serif;color:#212529;mso-fareast-language:ZH-CN;font-weight:norma= l'>[CCAMP]Working group adoption poll on = draft-yoon-ccamp-pm-streaming-04<o:p></o:p></span></h3><p = class=3Dmsg-header = style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:0cm;margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:15.0pt;mar= gin-left:0cm;background:white;box-sizing: = border-box;font-variant-ligatures: normal;font-variant-caps: = normal;orphans: 2;text-align:start;widows: 2;-webkit-text-stroke-width: = 0px;text-decoration-thickness: initial;text-decoration-style: = initial;text-decoration-color: initial;word-spacing:0px' = id=3Dmsg-info><span class=3Dpipe><span lang=3DEN-US = style=3D'font-family:"Segoe = UI",sans-serif;color:gray;mso-fareast-language:ZH-CN'>"Daniele = Ceccarelli (dceccare)" <<a = href=3D"mailto:[email protected]">[email protected]</a>></span></spa= n><span lang=3DEN-US style=3D'font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Segoe = UI",sans-serif;color:gray;mso-fareast-language:ZH-CN'> </span><span = class=3Dpipe><span lang=3DEN-US style=3D'font-family:"Segoe = UI",sans-serif;color:gray;mso-fareast-language:ZH-CN'>Fri, 20 March 2026 = 07:40 UTC</span></span><span lang=3DEN-US = style=3D'font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Segoe = UI",sans-serif;color:gray;mso-fareast-language:ZH-CN'><a = href=3D"https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/ccamp/_mpRnupqH9A9MBRTm-O3l= 2Ko1Mk/"><span style=3D'color:#337AB7'>Show = header</span></a><o:p></o:p></span></p><pre = style=3D'background:white;box-sizing: = border-box;margin-bottom:1rem;white-space:pre-wrap;overflow-wrap: = normal;overflow:auto'><span lang=3DEN-US = style=3D'font-size:9.0pt;font-family:Monaco;color:#212529;mso-fareast-lan= guage:ZH-CN'>Hi working group,<o:p></o:p></span></pre><pre = style=3D'background:white'><span lang=3DEN-US = style=3D'font-size:9.0pt;font-family:Monaco;color:#212529;mso-fareast-lan= guage:ZH-CN'><o:p> </o:p></span></pre><pre = style=3D'background:white'><span lang=3DEN-US = style=3D'font-size:9.0pt;font-family:Monaco;color:#212529;mso-fareast-lan= guage:ZH-CN'>As discussed during the CCAMP session at IETF 125 we're = starting the working group adoption call on = draft-yoon-ccamp-pm-streaming-04.<o:p></o:p></span></pre><pre = style=3D'background:white'><span lang=3DEN-US = style=3D'font-size:9.0pt;font-family:Monaco;color:#212529;mso-fareast-lan= guage:ZH-CN'><o:p> </o:p></span></pre><pre = style=3D'background:white'><span lang=3DEN-US = style=3D'font-size:9.0pt;font-family:Monaco;color:#212529;mso-fareast-lan= guage:ZH-CN'>The polling will last 2 weeks till Friday April = 3rd.<o:p></o:p></span></pre><pre style=3D'background:white'><span = lang=3DEN-US = style=3D'font-size:9.0pt;font-family:Monaco;color:#212529;mso-fareast-lan= guage:ZH-CN'><o:p> </o:p></span></pre><pre = style=3D'background:white'><span lang=3DEN-US = style=3D'font-size:9.0pt;font-family:Monaco;color:#212529;mso-fareast-lan= guage:ZH-CN'><o:p> </o:p></span></pre><pre = style=3D'background:white'><span lang=3DEN-US = style=3D'font-size:9.0pt;font-family:Monaco;color:#212529;mso-fareast-lan= guage:ZH-CN'>Thanks,<o:p></o:p></span></pre><pre = style=3D'background:white'><span lang=3DEN-US = style=3D'font-size:9.0pt;font-family:Monaco;color:#212529;mso-fareast-lan= guage:ZH-CN'>Daniele, Fatai, Luis<o:p></o:p></span></pre><p = class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-US = style=3D'mso-fareast-language:ZH-CN'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><p= re><span = lang=3DFR>_______________________________________________________________= _____________________________________________<o:p></o:p></span></pre><pre= ><span lang=3DFR>Ce message et ses pieces jointes peuvent contenir des = informations confidentielles ou privilegiees et ne doivent = donc<o:p></o:p></span></pre><pre><span lang=3DFR>pas etre diffuses, = exploites ou copies sans autorisation. 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