[DNSOP] Re: QName Minimization vs Aggressive NSEC vs Encrypt ed and Authenticated DNS vs Serve Stale vs DNSSEC vs LocalRoot

Roy Arends <[email protected]>
Newsgroups gmane.ietf.dnsop
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> On 2 Jun 2026, at 15:25, Philip Homburg <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
>> Having analysed root-server
>> traffic via DITL data, I am acutely aware about the need for
>> *complete* privacy protection. Since the best way to keep things
>> secret is not to tell anyone, I see that LocalRoot fulfills that
>> promise. The other methods go a long way, but do not stop your
>> queries from ending up in, say, DITL data.
> 
> What I find problematic is that only a small part of query traffic is
> considered.
> 
> Most DNS queries do not just go to the root and stop there. Queries continue
> TLDs, SLDs, etc.
> 
> For an on path attacker, does a local root provide much protection? Not 
> really, the attacker will see the query go to the TLD.
> 
> With local root, root operators will not see the query but operators of
> TLDs will. Are root operators less trustworthy than TLDs operators. It seems
> that the answer is yes because root operators participate in DITL. So
> may be a local root is a good idea.
> 
> When considering all upstream traffic of a resolver to answer a query,
> is the improvement provided by a local root significant?

I agree that LocalRoot is not complete DNS privacy. Queries will still go to TLDs and authoritative servers. My point is narrower: LocalRoot removes one unnecessary disclosure point. Root traffic is uniquely aggregated and studied (e.g., via DITL), so preventing queries from leaving the local environment at the root level is still a meaningful privacy improvement. 

This is not about whether root operators are more or less trustworthy than TLD operators. It is about minimising disclosure. If a query does not need to go to the root, not sending it there is the better privacy outcome. So yes, LocalRoot is only a partial solution, but reducing upstream exposure is still significant.

Warmly,

Roy
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