RE: AS3 Discusion - Abstract
[email protected] Fri, 11 Nov 2005 09:33:30 +0100
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Mr. Moberg, That's nice , I get a copy of my own message returned by "[email protected]". Perhaps that is where you should start looking . Kind regards, Harry Bakker MOL Europe Harry.Bakker@mol- europe.com Sent by: To owner-ietf-ediint "Dale Moberg" @mail.imc.org <[email protected]> cc [email protected], 11-11-2005 09:10 [email protected], "Terry Harding" <[email protected]> Subject RE: AS3 Discusion - Abstract Dear mr. Moberg, My name is Harry Bakker of MOL Europe , the Netherlands/ For whatever reason I am receiving several messages regarding your " AS3 discussion". I already checked with my own mail administrator but we cannot trace what is causing the distribution of the messages to included myself. Although I have no idea whether the information you are sending is confidential , I am sure it is not in the interest for both of us that I continue to receive these messages. Thank you in advance for checking with your mail administrator what could be the cause. Kind regards, Harry Bakker Manager European EDI MOL Europe mail:[email protected] tel : +31 10 2013 111 fax: +31 10 2013 196 Postal address: MOL (EUROPE) B.V. Hofhoek 7 3176 PD Poortugaal The Netherlands "Dale Moberg" <dmoberg@cyclonec ommerce.com> To Sent by: "Terry Harding" owner-ietf-ediint <[email protected]>, @mail.imc.org <[email protected]> cc 10-11-2005 18:00 Subject RE: AS3 Discusion - Abstract I am attaching some editorial changes that need to be made prior to submission of the draft (however it is administratively handled) The idnits tools at http://tools.ietf.org/tools/idnits/idnits.pyht is useful for editorial checks on Internet-Drafts. Checking nits according to http://www.ietf.org/ID-Checklist.html: * The document seems to lack an IANA Considerations section. * The document seems to lack separate sections for Informative/Normative References. [Claims RFC 2026 conformance...] * Looks like you're using RFC 2026 boilerplate. Better change to RFC 3978/3979. Checking nits according to http://www.ietf.org/ietf/1id-guidelines.txt: Nothing found here (but these checks do not cover all of 1id-guidelines.txt yet). Also the tools complains about line length and weird spacing numerous times. tmp/draft-ietf-ediint-AS3-04.txt(58): Line is too long: the offending characters are ']' tmp/draft-ietf-ediint-AS3-04.txt(60): Line is too long: the offending characters are '6' tmp/draft-ietf-ediint-AS3-04.txt(76): Line has weird spacing: '... and be clear...' tmp/draft-ietf-ediint-AS3-04.txt(119): Line is too long: the offending characters are ']' tmp/draft-ietf-ediint-AS3-04.txt(121): Line is too long: the offending characters are '6' tmp/draft-ietf-ediint-AS3-04.txt(180): Line is too long: the offending characters are ']' tmp/draft-ietf-ediint-AS3-04.txt(182): Line is too long: the offending characters are '6' tmp/draft-ietf-ediint-AS3-04.txt(241): Line is too long: the offending characters are ']' tmp/draft-ietf-ediint-AS3-04.txt(243): Line is too long: the offending characters are '6' tmp/draft-ietf-ediint-AS3-04.txt(299): Line is too long: the offending characters are 'e' tmp/draft-ietf-ediint-AS3-04.txt(302): Line is too long: the offending characters are ']' tmp/draft-ietf-ediint-AS3-04.txt(304): Line is too long: the offending characters are '6' tmp/draft-ietf-ediint-AS3-04.txt(363): Line is too long: the offending characters are ']' tmp/draft-ietf-ediint-AS3-04.txt(365): Line is too long: the offending characters are '6' tmp/draft-ietf-ediint-AS3-04.txt(380): Line is too long: the offending characters are 'y' tmp/draft-ietf-ediint-AS3-04.txt(403): Line has weird spacing: '...quested howev...' tmp/draft-ietf-ediint-AS3-04.txt(404): Line is too long: the offending characters are 'h' tmp/draft-ietf-ediint-AS3-04.txt(415): Line is too long: the offending characters are 'E' tmp/draft-ietf-ediint-AS3-04.txt(424): Line is too long: the offending characters are ']' tmp/draft-ietf-ediint-AS3-04.txt(426): Line is too long: the offending characters are '6' tmp/draft-ietf-ediint-AS3-04.txt(454): Line is too long: the offending characters are 'r' tmp/draft-ietf-ediint-AS3-04.txt(485): Line is too long: the offending characters are ']' tmp/draft-ietf-ediint-AS3-04.txt(487): Line is too long: the offending characters are '6' tmp/draft-ietf-ediint-AS3-04.txt(522): Line is too long: the offending characters are ')' tmp/draft-ietf-ediint-AS3-04.txt(527): Line is too long: the offending characters are '].' tmp/draft-ietf-ediint-AS3-04.txt(529): Line is too long: the offending characters are 'ge' tmp/draft-ietf-ediint-AS3-04.txt(540): Line is too long: the offending characters are 'n' tmp/draft-ietf-ediint-AS3-04.txt(546): Line is too long: the offending characters are ']' tmp/draft-ietf-ediint-AS3-04.txt(548): Line is too long: the offending characters are '6' tmp/draft-ietf-ediint-AS3-04.txt(607): Line is too long: the offending characters are '0]' tmp/draft-ietf-ediint-AS3-04.txt(609): Line is too long: the offending characters are '6' tmp/draft-ietf-ediint-AS3-04.txt(631): Line is too long: the offending characters are 'er' tmp/draft-ietf-ediint-AS3-04.txt(668): Line is too long: the offending characters are '1]' tmp/draft-ietf-ediint-AS3-04.txt(670): Line is too long: the offending characters are '6' tmp/draft-ietf-ediint-AS3-04.txt(683): Line is too long: the offending characters are 'd' tmp/draft-ietf-ediint-AS3-04.txt(689): Line is too long: the offending characters are 'ue' tmp/draft-ietf-ediint-AS3-04.txt(707): Line is too long: the offending characters are 'f' tmp/draft-ietf-ediint-AS3-04.txt(709): Line is too long: the offending characters are 'n' tmp/draft-ietf-ediint-AS3-04.txt(712): Line is too long: the offending characters are 'on' tmp/draft-ietf-ediint-AS3-04.txt(718): Line is too long: the offending characters are 's' tmp/draft-ietf-ediint-AS3-04.txt(720): Line is too long: the offending characters are 'ta' tmp/draft-ietf-ediint-AS3-04.txt(729): Line is too long: the offending characters are '2]' tmp/draft-ietf-ediint-AS3-04.txt(731): Line is too long: the offending characters are '6' tmp/draft-ietf-ediint-AS3-04.txt(761): Line is too long: the offending characters are 'he' tmp/draft-ietf-ediint-AS3-04.txt(790): Line is too long: the offending characters are '3]' tmp/draft-ietf-ediint-AS3-04.txt(792): Line is too long: the offending characters are '6' tmp/draft-ietf-ediint-AS3-04.txt(826): Line is too long: the offending characters are 't' tmp/draft-ietf-ediint-AS3-04.txt(837): Line is too long: the offending characters are 'e' tmp/draft-ietf-ediint-AS3-04.txt(842): Line is too long: the offending characters are 'ed' tmp/draft-ietf-ediint-AS3-04.txt(851): Line is too long: the offending characters are '4]' tmp/draft-ietf-ediint-AS3-04.txt(853): Line is too long: the offending characters are '6' tmp/draft-ietf-ediint-AS3-04.txt(856): Line is too long: the offending characters are 'g' tmp/draft-ietf-ediint-AS3-04.txt(881): Line is too long: the offending characters are 'n' tmp/draft-ietf-ediint-AS3-04.txt(898): Line is too long: the offending characters are 'y' tmp/draft-ietf-ediint-AS3-04.txt(912): Line is too long: the offending characters are '5]' tmp/draft-ietf-ediint-AS3-04.txt(914): Line is too long: the offending characters are '6' tmp/draft-ietf-ediint-AS3-04.txt(937): Line is too long: the offending characters are 'ce' tmp/draft-ietf-ediint-AS3-04.txt(938): Line is too long: the offending characters are 'd' tmp/draft-ietf-ediint-AS3-04.txt(944): Line is too long: the offending characters are 'e' tmp/draft-ietf-ediint-AS3-04.txt(945): Line is too long: the offending characters are 'is' tmp/draft-ietf-ediint-AS3-04.txt(949): Line is too long: the offending characters are 'ed' tmp/draft-ietf-ediint-AS3-04.txt(955): Line is too long: the offending characters are 'ed' tmp/draft-ietf-ediint-AS3-04.txt(958): Line is too long: the offending characters are 'at' tmp/draft-ietf-ediint-AS3-04.txt(965): Line is too long: the offending characters are 'e' tmp/draft-ietf-ediint-AS3-04.txt(973): Line is too long: the offending characters are '6]' tmp/draft-ietf-ediint-AS3-04.txt(975): Line is too long: the offending characters are '6' tmp/draft-ietf-ediint-AS3-04.txt(977): Line is too long: the offending characters are 'DN' tmp/draft-ietf-ediint-AS3-04.txt(1019): Line is too long: the offending characters are 's:' tmp/draft-ietf-ediint-AS3-04.txt(1021): Line is too long: the offending characters are 'd' tmp/draft-ietf-ediint-AS3-04.txt(1034): Line is too long: the offending characters are '7]' tmp/draft-ietf-ediint-AS3-04.txt(1036): Line is too long: the offending characters are '6' tmp/draft-ietf-ediint-AS3-04.txt(1040): Line is too long: the offending characters are '8' tmp/draft-ietf-ediint-AS3-04.txt(1044): Line is too long: the offending characters are 'a' tmp/draft-ietf-ediint-AS3-04.txt(1047): Line is too long: the offending characters are '.' tmp/draft-ietf-ediint-AS3-04.txt(1050): Line is too long: the offending characters are 'e' tmp/draft-ietf-ediint-AS3-04.txt(1051): Line is too long: the offending characters are '.' tmp/draft-ietf-ediint-AS3-04.txt(1053): Line is too long: the offending characters are 'e' tmp/draft-ietf-ediint-AS3-04.txt(1059): Line is too long: the offending characters are 's' tmp/draft-ietf-ediint-AS3-04.txt(1065): Line is too long: the offending characters are 'n' tmp/draft-ietf-ediint-AS3-04.txt(1071): Line is too long: the offending characters are 'e' tmp/draft-ietf-ediint-AS3-04.txt(1075): Line is too long: the offending characters are 'e' tmp/draft-ietf-ediint-AS3-04.txt(1076): Line is too long: the offending characters are 'l' tmp/draft-ietf-ediint-AS3-04.txt(1080): Line is too long: the offending characters are 'e' tmp/draft-ietf-ediint-AS3-04.txt(1085): Line is too long: the offending characters are 'y' tmp/draft-ietf-ediint-AS3-04.txt(1088): Line is too long: the offending characters are 't' tmp/draft-ietf-ediint-AS3-04.txt(1095): Line is too long: the offending characters are '8]' tmp/draft-ietf-ediint-AS3-04.txt(1097): Line is too long: the offending characters are '6' tmp/draft-ietf-ediint-AS3-04.txt(1156): Line is too long: the offending characters are '9]' tmp/draft-ietf-ediint-AS3-04.txt(1158): Line is too long: the offending characters are '6' tmp/draft-ietf-ediint-AS3-04.txt(1163): Line is too long: the offending characters are 'e' tmp/draft-ietf-ediint-AS3-04.txt(1207): Line is too long: the offending characters are ']' tmp/draft-ietf-ediint-AS3-04.txt(1217): Line is too long: the offending characters are '0]' tmp/draft-ietf-ediint-AS3-04.txt(1219): Line is too long: the offending characters are '6' tmp/draft-ietf-ediint-AS3-04.txt(1261): Line is too long: the offending characters are 'r.' tmp/draft-ietf-ediint-AS3-04.txt(1278): Line is too long: the offending characters are '1]' tmp/draft-ietf-ediint-AS3-04.txt(1280): Line is too long: the offending characters are '6' tmp/draft-ietf-ediint-AS3-04.txt(1334): Line is too long: the offending characters are 'is' tmp/draft-ietf-ediint-AS3-04.txt(1337): Line is too long: the offending characters are 'ir' tmp/draft-ietf-ediint-AS3-04.txt(1339): Line is too long: the offending characters are '2]' tmp/draft-ietf-ediint-AS3-04.txt(1341): Line is too long: the offending characters are '6' tmp/draft-ietf-ediint-AS3-04.txt(1355): Line is too long: the offending characters are 'ct' tmp/draft-ietf-ediint-AS3-04.txt(1374): Line is too long: the offending characters are 'r.' tmp/draft-ietf-ediint-AS3-04.txt(1400): Line is too long: the offending characters are '3]' tmp/draft-ietf-ediint-AS3-04.txt(1402): Line is too long: the offending characters are '6' tmp/draft-ietf-ediint-AS3-04.txt(1461): Line is too long: the offending characters are '4]' tmp/draft-ietf-ediint-AS3-04.txt(1463): Line is too long: the offending characters are '6' tmp/draft-ietf-ediint-AS3-04.txt(1522): Line is too long: the offending characters are '5]' tmp/draft-ietf-ediint-AS3-04.txt(1524): Line is too long: the offending characters are '6' tmp/draft-ietf-ediint-AS3-04.txt(1545): Line is too long: the offending characters are 'n' tmp/draft-ietf-ediint-AS3-04.txt(1546): Line is too long: the offending characters are 't' tmp/draft-ietf-ediint-AS3-04.txt(1568): Line is too long: the offending characters are 'n' tmp/draft-ietf-ediint-AS3-04.txt(1583): Line is too long: the offending characters are '6]' tmp/draft-ietf-ediint-AS3-04.txt(1585): Line is too long: the offending characters are '6' tmp/draft-ietf-ediint-AS3-04.txt(1593): Line is too long: the offending characters are 'e' tmp/draft-ietf-ediint-AS3-04.txt(1597): Line is too long: the offending characters are 'g' tmp/draft-ietf-ediint-AS3-04.txt(1604): Line is too long: the offending characters are 'y' tmp/draft-ietf-ediint-AS3-04.txt(1623): Line is too long: the offending characters are '.' tmp/draft-ietf-ediint-AS3-04.txt(1633): Line is too long: the offending characters are 'e' tmp/draft-ietf-ediint-AS3-04.txt(1634): Line is too long: the offending characters are 'e' tmp/draft-ietf-ediint-AS3-04.txt(1635): Line is too long: the offending characters are 'ng' tmp/draft-ietf-ediint-AS3-04.txt(1636): Line is too long: the offending characters are 'nd' tmp/draft-ietf-ediint-AS3-04.txt(1644): Line is too long: the offending characters are '7]' tmp/draft-ietf-ediint-AS3-04.txt(1646): Line is too long: the offending characters are '6' tmp/draft-ietf-ediint-AS3-04.txt(1695): Line is too long: the offending characters are 'e' tmp/draft-ietf-ediint-AS3-04.txt(1699): Line is too long: the offending characters are 's' tmp/draft-ietf-ediint-AS3-04.txt(1701): Line is too long: the offending characters are '95' tmp/draft-ietf-ediint-AS3-04.txt(1705): Line is too long: the offending characters are '8]' tmp/draft-ietf-ediint-AS3-04.txt(1707): Line is too long: the offending characters are '6' tmp/draft-ietf-ediint-AS3-04.txt(1766): Line is too long: the offending characters are '9]' tmp/draft-ietf-ediint-AS3-04.txt(1768): Line is too long: the offending characters are '6' tmp/draft-ietf-ediint-AS3-04.txt(1827): Line is too long: the offending characters are '0]' tmp/draft-ietf-ediint-AS3-04.txt(1829): Line is too long: the offending characters are '6' tmp/draft-ietf-ediint-AS3-04.txt(1848): Line has weird spacing: '...ed with proto...' tmp/draft-ietf-ediint-AS3-04.txt(1852): Line is too long: the offending characters are 'e' tmp/draft-ietf-ediint-AS3-04.txt(1858): Line is too long: the offending characters are 'f' tmp/draft-ietf-ediint-AS3-04.txt(1864): Line is too long: the offending characters are '1]' -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Terry Harding Sent: Friday, October 21, 2005 10:42 AM To: [email protected] Subject: AS3 Discusion - Abstract Since the AS3 document has been discussed extensively off this list, I will be submitting each individual section of the document for review and comments. Please forward any suggestions of changes to the list. ***************************** Abstract This Applicability Statement (AS) describes how to exchange structured business data securely using the File Transfer Protocol (FTP) for XML, Binary, Electronic Data Interchange (EDI - ANSI X12 or UN/EDIFACT), or other data used for business-to-business data interchange for which MIME packaging can be accomplished using standard MIME content-types. Authentication and data confidentiality are obtained by using Cryptographic Message Syntax (S/MIME) security body parts. Authenticated acknowledgements employ multipart/signed replies to the original message. ****************************** Thanks Terry Harding Cyclone Commerce Inc. -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Scott Hollenbeck Sent: Friday, October 21, 2005 10:13 AM To: [email protected] Subject: RE: Moving AS3 forward. Speaking as your Area Director, and referencing this message: http://www.imc.org/ietf-ediint/mail-archive/msg01777.html I am glad to finally see some discussion on this mailing list. However, you all need to be aware that simple statements of "I support moving this forward" aren't sufficient to develop standards in the IETF. You need to actually do the design work on this working group mailing list, too! I was encouraged to see the message from Guillaume Colombier describing a potential technical issue. Whether or not this document moves forward depends on how you all deal with comments like that one. If you discuss it here and decide on a solution here I may consider a working group request for publication as a proposed standard. If nothing happens here I can tell you right now that I will not support a request to publish AS3 as a Proposed Standard. The best I will be able to do is to consider publication as an Informational RFC documenting the work of some organization that took place outside the IETF. Remember, IETF standards MUST be developed in the IETF. -Scott-