RE: entity mib support for tcif

"C. M. Heard" <[email protected]>
Newsgroups gmane.ietf.entmib
Message-ID <[email protected]>
>>>>> On Sun, 7 Sep 2003, Romascanu, Dan (Dan) wrote:
Dan> If this proposal is adopted, it looks like we need a
Dan> DateAndTimeOrNul TC, for these systems that do not support
Dan> manufacture date for some reason.
Dan> 
Dan> Dan
Dan> 
Dan> > 
Dan> > entPhysicalMfgDate   OBJECT-TYPE
Dan> >       SYNTAX      DateAndTime
Dan> >       MAX-ACCESS  read-only
Dan> >       STATUS      current
Dan> >       DESCRIPTION
Dan> >               "The manufacturing date for the physical entity."
Dan> >       ::= { entPhysicalEntry xx }

Using a special value (e.g., a zero-length OCTER STRING) to represent
"no date" is one way.  Another is just not to instantiate the object.
Since a manager would have to deal with that anyway (existing 
implementations don't support this object), maybe that's the
simplest approach.

>>>>> On Sun, 7 Sep 2003, Wijnen, Bert (Bert) replied:
Bert> Or..., the DESCRIPTION clause could say that all zeroes for
Bert> the DateAndTime would mean 
Bert> "manufacture date unknown or nor supported"
Bert> 
Bert> Just thinking aloud here.

It seems to me that this would conflict with the DateAndTime
DESCRIPTION clause in RFC 2579.

Bert> By the way, I believe that most of us are on entmib or atommib
Bert> lists, so I have trimmed all the people names (except whom I
Bert> responded to). I have bcc:-ed you all this time, so you can
Bert> spoeak up if my assumtion is incorrect.
Bert> 
Bert> But even 2 mailing lists... can we move this to one list for now?

Indeed, I think there is a practical reason to avoid long lists of
addresses in the To: and Cc: fields -- the spam filters for the
lists hosted as ietf.org seem to be trapping such messages as
potential spam.  When that happens it results in moderation delays,
which inhibits the discussion;  indeed, several messages from this
thread seem to be sitting in the entmib moderation queue as we
speak, and I suspect this as the cause.  If this message makes it to
the entmib list without delay, thereby confirming my suspicions, I
suggest that we trim down the To: and Cc: lists and send the
messages to [email protected] only.

Thanks,

Mike
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