Re: WG: New Draft: Trunk Group Use in ENUM

Alexander Mayrhofer <[email protected]> Fri, 06 Mar 2009 15:04:47 +0100
Newsgroups gmane.ietf.enum
Organization enum.at GmbH
Message-ID <[email protected]>
notes inline.

>>  - I'm not a big fan of accepting new work items in the ENUM working
>>  group.
> 
> A. this is not new work ..the original draft was an approved WG item. Its
> simply expired.
> 
> Shockey, R. and T. Creighton, "IANA Registration for an
>               Enumservice Trunkgroup", draft-ietf-enum-trunkgroup-00
>               (work in progress), July 2008.

I understood that very well. However, the new draft is not the same work 
- it's some operational experience why we don't need the original work. 
   Fine as well, but not the same work.

> Yes it's should be structured as a BCP. The idea is to actually document
> something that actually works vs waiting another year or whatever to try and
> create a new enum service. I personally had no objection to completely
> rewriting the existing 00 draft but the authors chose to submit a new draft.

I preferred to see it as a new draft anyway, because the subject of the 
draft changed quite a lot (from an Enumservice registration to an 
operational practice).

What i meant is that i don't think we'd need to accept it as a WG item 
*just* to reason dropping the "trunk" registration work.

Now if i hear people saying it contains important operational 
experience, *then* it's a different story.

Whether it should be done in SPEERMINT or ENUM is a different question.

> So you want to send this to SPEERMINT where again it will get lost in the
> shuffle?
> 
> Daryl, Jason ??  Do you want to do this?
>

Well, if it's about finding the path of least resistance, then the 
sedated ENUM WG might work well :)

[...]

> More stall and delay. I just don't see the point. Why do you want to get
> this draft bogged down in some IETF procedural issue?  Cant we just fix it
> and shut the WG down? This draft, again, has real and demonstrable
> applicability to internal SSP operator networks RIGHT NOW, unlike some RAI
> drafts I see floating around.

ok, ok, i'm convinced - i was just a bit reluctant to replace work that 
was expired anyway with new work. If it's the easiest way, the lets 
proceed it.

Alex