Re: I STRONGLY OPPOSE ipv8 proposal.

Hi,

this (and the I-D) reads to me as if someone's AI agent/Openclaw bot has
targeted the IETF.

Any hints that's a real person behind this account?

Regards,
  Roland

On 17.04.26 at 18:20 Jamie Thain wrote:
> Sotrdg,
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> Thank you for your words. The goal is not to deprecate ipv6. I believe 
> most of the mobile carriers will continue to use their ipv6 infrastructure.
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> IPv8 is meant to fix the management issues in ipv4.
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> It's to fix the global address structure.
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> Ipv6 can be as easily intercepted and blocked as can ipv4. So it's not 
> the protocol allowing you access. It is the lack of implementation.
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> When ipv6 grows to a meaningful level, China will add it to the great Wall.
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> So with that said, ipv8 is not a social political issue, it's a 
> technical issue.
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> Jamie
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> On Fri., Apr. 17, 2026, 1:01 p.m. sotrdg sotrdg, <[email protected] 
> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
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>     1. IPv8 makes Governments across the globe much easier to block IP
>     and censor internet. I am from China and i use ipv6 to bypass the
>     great firewall. ipv8 makes this much easier to block since it reuses
>     existing ipv4 (which is blocked for sure) and its address space is
>     very small. this ipv8 proposal is just another attempt of big tech
>     and governments around the world tries to kill open internet.
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>     2. Implementing ipv8 means deprecating ipv6 which is a huge problem.
>       it is not really solving anything
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>     3. it is not easy to implement ipv8 at all. Android OEMs locks down
>     bootloaders and not mentioning routers too. That means billions of
>     devices immediately e-waste since they will not get updated to
>     support ipv8. It is just another N+1 problem.
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>     4. ipv8's address space is WAY too small. 2^64 may be enough for
>     representing a machine but it does not count things like virtual
>     machines which might use tons of ip addresses for a very good reason.
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>     5. To say ipv6 is not adopted is very untrue since i am using ipv6
>     every day to bypass internet censorship. All my traffic, even this
>     email comes from ipv6. this is just completely bs proposal
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