Re: Comments on draft-thain-ipv8-01

Tom Beecher <[email protected]> Tue, 19 May 2026 12:26:32 -0400
Newsgroups gmane.ietf.general
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>From the article :

He thinks he can prove the nay-sayers wrong by building an IPv8 testbed and
> has commenced a crowdfunding campaign that aims to raise $100,000 to cover
> the cost of developing open-source software, research and testing
> infrastructure, plus demos and documentation.


I think his angle is becoming more clear.

On Tue, May 19, 2026 at 8:58 AM Jeffrey Walton <[email protected]> wrote:

> On Thu, Apr 16, 2026 at 10:31 AM Stephane Bortzmeyer
> <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> > On Thu, Apr 16, 2026 at 01:41:37PM +0000,
> >  Andrew <[email protected]> wrote
> >  a message of 39 lines which said:
> >
> > > This was sent to me by … maybe a half dozen people.
> > >
> > > Is this some sort April Fools joke?
> >
> > In France at least, at least two information sites (both very
> > low-cost, with poor articles and therefore widely read and quite often
> > quoted by Google) relayed this information as if it were an "official"
> > IETF project:
> >
> >
> https://www.frandroid.com/culture-tech/3067103_cest-quoi-lipv8-la-solution-pour-enfin-regler-le-probleme-des-adresses-internet
> >
> https://www.it-connect.fr/cest-quoi-ipv8-un-nouveau-draft-ietf-veut-ressusciter-ipv4/
>
> I noticed The Register published an articled recently.  From "Veteran
> network architect proposes IPv8 – to improve IPv4, not leapfrog v6"
> (12 May 2026), <
> https://www.theregister.com/networks/2026/05/12/veteran-network-architect-proposes-ipv8-to-improve-ipv4-not-leapfrog-v6/5238474
> >:
>
>     A veteran network architect named James Thain has drafted a proposal
>     for “Internet Protocol Version 8” (IPv8) and hopes to crowdfund
>     work to create a testbed that will demonstrate his ideas.
>     ...
>
>     In conversation with The Register, Thain said he created the IPv8 draft
>     because existing protocols were developed for the networking problems
>     of the day, and things have now well and truly moved on. He also thinks
>     that few organizations other than hyperscalers and network operators
>     have a good reason to adopt IPv6, because it doesn’t offer major
>     improvements over IPv4 and migrations to the newer protocol seldom
>     produce return on investment.
>     ...
>
> Jeff
>
>