Re: Dealing with LLMs in IETF discussions draft
Ignacio De Castro Arribas <[email protected]> Fri, 31 Jul 2026 14:57:31 +0000
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--_000_DB9PR07MB8012888DB513EA26C8F39860BCC82DB9PR07MB8012eurp_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable This is definitely interesting, and it is a fact that AI use is becoming al= most omnipresent. There have been multiple discussions on the topic at RASPRG, including the = last one in Vienna with two presentations on how-to/tools for participation= from Mark Nottingham and inferring AI usage in drafts from Jaime Jim=E9nez= . https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/126/session/rasprg Given the amount of discussion we did a poll towards making an interim to k= eep discussing the topic (ie, IA-enabled participation at the IETF). Cheers, Ignacio --- Dr. Ignacio Castro Assistant Professor Electronic Engineering and Computer Science Queen Mary University of London ________________________________ From: Stephen Farrell Sent: Friday, July 31, 2026 04:20 To: IETF-Discussion Subject: Dealing with LLMs in IETF discussions draft Hi all, Myself and Chong Feng have posted an I-D [1] that (from two pretty different perspectives) aims to progress discussion of how we might better handle LLM text in IETF discussions. I think this'd be a fine topic for broad discussion. I do not know what would be the correct mailing list for such a discussion, but also think it doesn't warrant waiting for another round of dispatchery before being discussed. (Nor would any dispatch outcome above 'new mailing list' suit.) So, I'd be v. interested in comments on this and/or on it being moved to some other mailing list for discussion. If no existing list suits, I'd suggest [email protected] (which could be contracted to [email protected]:-) as a name for a new list, but whatever works is fine. Meanwhile, we'd be v. interested in any comments here or on the github repo [2]. And of course, this is a v. rough thing, not intended to be prescriptive or authoritative, so have at it:-) Cheers, S. [1] https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-fengfar-led/ [2] https://github.com/sftcd/led/ --_000_DB9PR07MB8012888DB513EA26C8F39860BCC82DB9PR07MB8012eurp_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <html> <head> <meta http-equiv=3D"Content-Type" content=3D"text/html; charset=3Diso-8859-= 1"> <style type=3D"text/css" style=3D"display:none;"> P {margin-top:0;margin-bo= ttom:0;} </style> </head> <body dir=3D"ltr"> <div class=3D"elementToProof" style=3D"font-family: Aptos, Aptos_EmbeddedFo= nt, Aptos_MSFontService, Calibri, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 11pt; c= olor: rgb(0, 0, 0);"> This is definitely interesting, and it is a fact that AI use is becoming al= most omnipresent.</div> <div class=3D"elementToProof" style=3D"font-family: Aptos, Aptos_EmbeddedFo= nt, Aptos_MSFontService, Calibri, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 11pt; c= olor: rgb(0, 0, 0);"> <br> </div> <div class=3D"elementToProof" style=3D"font-family: Aptos, Aptos_EmbeddedFo= nt, Aptos_MSFontService, Calibri, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 11pt; c= olor: rgb(0, 0, 0);"> There have been multiple discussions on the topic at RASPRG, including the = last one in Vienna with two presentations on how-to/tools for participation= from Mark Nottingham and inferring AI usage in drafts from Jaime Jim=E9nez= .</div> <div class=3D"elementToProof" style=3D"font-family: Aptos, Aptos_EmbeddedFo= nt, Aptos_MSFontService, Calibri, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 11pt; c= olor: rgb(0, 0, 0);"> <a href=3D"https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/126/session/rasprg" id=3D"O= WAdea894b5-428f-6642-76a2-a9557cd5717d" class=3D"OWAAutoLink">https://datat= racker.ietf.org/meeting/126/session/rasprg</a></div> <div class=3D"elementToProof" style=3D"font-family: Aptos, Aptos_EmbeddedFo= nt, Aptos_MSFontService, Calibri, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 11pt; c= olor: rgb(0, 0, 0);"> Given the amount of discussion we did a poll towards making an interim to k= eep discussing the topic (ie, IA-enabled participation at the IETF).</div> <div class=3D"elementToProof" style=3D"font-family: Aptos, Aptos_EmbeddedFo= nt, Aptos_MSFontService, Calibri, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 11pt; c= olor: rgb(0, 0, 0);"> <br> </div> <div class=3D"elementToProof" style=3D"font-family: Aptos, Aptos_EmbeddedFo= nt, Aptos_MSFontService, Calibri, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 11pt; c= olor: rgb(0, 0, 0);"> Cheers,</div> <div class=3D"elementToProof" style=3D"font-family: Aptos, Aptos_EmbeddedFo= nt, Aptos_MSFontService, Calibri, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 11pt; c= olor: rgb(0, 0, 0);"> <br> </div> <div class=3D"elementToProof" style=3D"font-family: Aptos, Aptos_EmbeddedFo= nt, Aptos_MSFontService, Calibri, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 11pt; c= olor: rgb(0, 0, 0);"> Ignacio</div> <div class=3D"elementToProof" style=3D"font-family: Aptos, Aptos_EmbeddedFo= nt, Aptos_MSFontService, Calibri, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 11pt; c= olor: rgb(0, 0, 0);"> </div> <div class=3D"elementToProof" style=3D"font-family: Aptos, Aptos_EmbeddedFo= nt, Aptos_MSFontService, Calibri, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 11pt; c= olor: rgb(0, 0, 0);"> <br> </div> <div id=3D"Signature" class=3D"elementToProof"> <div id=3D"divtagdefaultwrapper" class=3D"elementToProof"> <div id=3D"divtagdefaultwrapper" class=3D"elementToProof"> <p class=3D"elementToProof" style=3D"background-color: white; margin: 1em 0= cm; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; font-size: 11pt;"> <span style=3D"font-size: 12pt; color: black;">---</span></p> <p class=3D"elementToProof" style=3D"background-color: white; margin: 1em 0= cm; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; font-size: 11pt;"> <span style=3D"font-size: 12pt; color: black;">Dr. Ignacio Castro</spa= n></p> <p class=3D"elementToProof" style=3D"background-color: white; margin: 1em 0= cm; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; font-size: 11pt;"> <span style=3D"font-size: 12pt; color: black;">Assistant Professor</span></= p> <p class=3D"elementToProof" style=3D"background-color: white; margin: 1em 0= cm; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; font-size: 11pt;"> <span style=3D"font-size: 12pt; color: black;">Electronic Engineering and C= omputer Science</span></p> <p class=3D"elementToProof" style=3D"background-color: white; margin: 0cm; = font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; font-size: 11pt;"> <span style=3D"font-size: 12pt; color: black;">Queen Mary University of Lon= don</span></p> <p class=3D"elementToProof" style=3D"background-color: white; margin: 0cm; = font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; font-size: 11pt;"> </p> </div> </div> </div> <div style=3D"font-family: Calibri, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size= : 12pt; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"> <br> </div> <hr style=3D"display: inline-block; width: 98%;"> <div style=3D"font-family: Calibri, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size= : 12pt; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"> <b>From:</b> Stephen Farrell<br> <b>Sent:</b> Friday, July 31, 2026 04:20<br> <b>To:</b> IETF-Discussion<br> <b>Subject:</b> Dealing with LLMs in IETF discussions draft </div> <div style=3D"font-family: Calibri, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size= : 12pt; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"> <br> </div> <div style=3D"font-size: 11pt;"><br> Hi all,<br> <br> Myself and Chong Feng have posted an I-D [1] that (from two<br> pretty different perspectives) aims to progress discussion<br> of how we might better handle LLM text in IETF discussions.<br> <br> I think this'd be a fine topic for broad discussion. I do<br> not know what would be the correct mailing list for such a<br> discussion, but also think it doesn't warrant waiting for<br> another round of dispatchery before being discussed. (Nor<br> would any dispatch outcome above 'new mailing list' suit.)<br> <br> So, I'd be v. interested in comments on this and/or on it<br> being moved to some other mailing list for discussion. If<br> no existing list suits, I'd suggest [email protected]<br> (which could be contracted to [email protected]:-) as a name<br> for a new list, but whatever works is fine.<br> <br> Meanwhile, we'd be v. interested in any comments here or<br> on the github repo [2].<br> <br> And of course, this is a v. rough thing, not intended to<br> be prescriptive or authoritative, so have at it:-)<br> <br> Cheers,<br> S.<br> <br> [1] <a href=3D"https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-fengfar-led/" id=3D"O= WAf5a11107-9b13-90e5-becc-f1793c0391f2" class=3D"OWAAutoLink" data-auth=3D"= NotApplicable"> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-fengfar-led/</a><br> [2] <a href=3D"https://github.com/sftcd/led/" id=3D"OWAda33f4cc-8869-9cb3-1= f60-576b811fb0ca" class=3D"OWAAutoLink" data-auth=3D"NotApplicable"> https://github.com/sftcd/led/</a><br> <br> </div> </body> </html> --_000_DB9PR07MB8012888DB513EA26C8F39860BCC82DB9PR07MB8012eurp_--