RE: Teasing apart positions (was Re: RE: [Geopriv] Consensus onchanges to location-conveyance)

"Thomson, Martin" <[email protected]>
Newsgroups gmane.ietf.sip,gmane.ietf.geopriv
Message-ID <[email protected]>
Since I raised the question, I'll answer.

We have a set of requirements on a using protocol in RFC 3693.

I believe that HTTP with proper constraints (TLS, etc...) can meet, or already meets, those requirements.  That is irrespective of any decisions that need to be made about secondary concerns like whether HTTP is desirable, optimal, deployable etc...  However, it is clear that people aren't happy with this position and are requesting that this be documented, as an RFC.  Just to get it all out in the open.  Presumably this would be a standards track RFC that, like location-conveyance, highlights how the RFC 3693 requirements are addressed.

That's a sound argument, and obviously location-conveyance had to meet that standard for us to be happy.  Now, I ask that you go back, take the above paragraph and perform one simple operation and read it again: s/HTTP/SIP/g.  Is the argument any different in the presence of RFC 4079?  Is an informational RFC that doesn't address specific requirements adequate?  I'd suggest that it wouldn't make the grade for HTTP.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Andrew Newton [mailto:[email protected]]
> Sent: Thursday, 27 July 2006 1:55 PM
> To: IETF SIP List; GEOPRIV
> Subject: Teasing apart positions (was Re: [Sip] RE: [Geopriv] Consensus
> onchanges to location-conveyance)
> 
> 
> On Jul 26, 2006, at 11:08 PM, Brian Rosen wrote:
> > The authors would like to know what to do now.
> 
> Let's start by trying to tease apart certain positions.
> 
> Given Jon Peterson's message:
> http://www1.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/sip/current/msg15537.html
> 
> Does anybody still believe that subscriptions to PIDF-LOs with pres:
> requires more definition?
> 
> -andy
> 
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