RE: RE: [Geopriv] Consensus on changes to location-conveyance

"Dawson, Martin" <[email protected]>
Newsgroups gmane.ietf.sip,gmane.ietf.geopriv
Message-ID <[email protected]>
That's right - and those mechanisms by which the URI remains anonymous
and temporary and access rights to the anonymous form of the location
are controlled are quite extensive considerations.

I understand the conveyance draft just says how to get the location
object and/or reference from one signaling peer to another. It's asking
to much of this specification to anticipate all the possible mechanisms
for applying security to privacy in the by-reference form and thereby
restricting the form of the reference to a particular protocol. This
should be out of scope for the conveyance protocol.

Cheers,
Martin

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jeroen van Bemmel [mailto:[email protected]]
> Sent: Wednesday, 26 July 2006 4:46 PM
> To: Brian Rosen; 'Marc Linsner'; Peterson, Jon; 'Andrew Newton';
Rosen,
> Brian
> Cc: [email protected]; [email protected]
> Subject: Re: [Sip] RE: [Geopriv] Consensus on changes to location-
> conveyance
> 
> >I don't really understand why you think location by reference is so
much
> of
> > a concern.
> 
> Because location by reference involves storage of personal information
on
> a
> server. That suddenly makes all sorts of regulations apply, the points
I
> mentioned address only a small part of that. Having an anonymous URL
for
> example often makes a difference, because then the information is no
> longer
> directly linked to a particular person.
> 
> When an endpoint inserts location by value, you can reasonably argue
that
> opt-in consent requirements (which many countries have) are fulfilled,
> provided the endpoint gives the user control over whether or not
location
> is
> inserted. Same holds for the endpoint inserting a flag asking a proxy
to
> fill in the location (by value).
> For location-by-reference this is much more fuzzy. You probably don't
need
> a
> lecture on privacy regulations, but e.g.
> http://www.isoc.org/briefings/015/index.shtml (from 2003 but still
> applicable IMO) illustrates the mess.
> 
> A while ago I submitted a draft on Temporarily Routable User Agent
URIs
> (http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-jbemmel-sip-truu-02.txt),
which
> provides anonymous, temporary URIs that can be explicitly invalidated.
You
> may want to consider something similar for location-by-reference
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Jeroen
> 
> 
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