Re: Problems of Internationalized Mail Address eXtensions (IMAX)
"Mark Davis" <[email protected]>
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> What are your thoughts overall on the doc? Sadly, I am up to my ears in Unicode 4.0 work right now, and am only able to keep half an ear open to this mailing list. I should have more time in a couple of weeks. Mark ________ [email protected] IBM, MS 50-2/B11, 5600 Cottle Rd, SJ CA 95193 (408) 256-3148 fax: (408) 256-0799 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Edmon Chung" <[email protected]> To: "Mark Davis" <[email protected]>; <[email protected]>; "Paul Hoffman / IMC" <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, February 25, 2003 18:20 Subject: Re: Problems of Internationalized Mail Address eXtensions (IMAX) > > Hi Mark, > > I think you are right. That is why in the IMAX description, UTF8 is > mandated. The thinking is similar to XML among other things. And in order > to not reinvent the wheel, a fall back to punycode is suggested. What are > your thoughts overall on the doc? > > BTW, I have updated the draft to -01 and changed a number of stuff. Most > notably taking out section 3 as suggested by everyone... including myself > :-) > > You can find it at: http://www.dnsii.org/draft-ietf-chung-imax-01.txt > > (Paul, I havent changed the optional parameter word "CHARSET" yet, but I > think you are right and I will do so in the next version) > > (James, I have sent it to the IETF, but I dont know when they will get it > posted... just in case you ask.) > > Edmon > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Mark Davis" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]>; "Paul Hoffman / IMC" <[email protected]> > Sent: Tuesday, February 25, 2003 6:36 PM > Subject: Re: Problems of Internationalized Mail Address eXtensions (IMAX) > > > > > > > > It doesn't say that it is a bad idea to > > > >allow more than one charset. I agree with that document, let's > > > >require the use of UTF-8 in protocols, but allow negotiation of other > > > >charsets to smooth transition and deployment. > > > > > You should take this up with Harald Alvestrand, the author of RFC > > > 2277. Note that IDN chose not to use UTF-8, and Harald (as chair of > > > the IESG) approved it to be on standards track. > > > > I want to point out a very important feature here. While IDN does not use > > UTF-8, the contents are algorithmically mappable to UTF-8. That is *very* > > different from allowing arbitrary charsets. > > > > There is a huge problem with using arbitrary charsets; they don't > > interoperate well. They may not be supported on the recipient platform, or > > if supported, even the 'same' charset (such as SJIS) is interpreted in > > different ways on different platforms. If the on-the-wire protocol is > UTF-8 > > (or algorithmically mappable to UTF-8) then senders and recipients only > need > > to deal with one charset. > > > > Mark > > > > > >