Re: FYI: BOF on Internationalized Email Addresses (IEA)
"Adam M. Costello" <[email protected]>
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The extremely broad To/Cc list was appropriate for the initial announcement of the BOF, but for this ensuing discussion I'm guessing it would be good to trim it down, so I did. Mark Crispin <[email protected]> wrote: > As presently constituted, email addresses are limited to the 26 Latin > alphabetics, 10 digits, and a limited number of special characters in > the ASCII character set. Not so limited. According to RFCs 821 & 822, all ASCII characters are allowed. According to RFCs 2821 & 2822, NUL is "obsolete", as are CR and LF except as the pair CRLF. (Obsolete means must be accepted and must not be generated.) Keith Moore <[email protected]> wrote: > What is the source of the "growing need"? Is it: > > a. for users of many languages (particularly those not using Latin > alphabets) email addresses are difficult to remember > b. for users of many languages (particularly those not using Latin > alphabets) email addresses are difficult to transcribe or type > c. users want to use their names in email addresses > d. users are confused by apparently arbitrary restrictions on use of > characters in email addresses, and this leads to mistakes > e. on computer systems employing non-ASCII names for other purposes > (e.g. login or account names) these do not map well to ASCII email > addresses > > or something else that I don't see? Regarding (a), there are at least two kinds of remembering: one is recognition (is this address the same one I saw yesterday? is it a font variation or a different character?); the other, more challenging, is recall (mentally retrieve the address I saw yesterday). Even harder than remembering is reproducing (draw the characters or find them on a keyboard) which is (b). I've heard claims of all of those sources, except (d). But I think (d) will become true if internationalized mail addresses are not introduced. I think users will be astonished that non-ASCII characters are allowed after the at-sign but not before it. I guess a problem statement should include both the motivation and the challenge. The challenge is the same as for internationalized domain names: Given a huge installed infrastructure of protocols, end-user software, and intermediate software, all built on the assumption that identifiers are ASCII, how can you relax that assumption without causing so much breakage and non-interoperability that people would rather stick with the existing ASCII system than endure the transition? There are presumably several challenges, but that is the one that I see as the main challenge. I suppose that the people advocating approaches very different from IMAA might think I'm overestimating the height of this hurdle, and therefore might see something else as the main challenge. AMC