RE: Loops (RE: CPIM changes)
"Mark Day" <[email protected]> Wed, 13 Nov 2002 13:16:49 -0500
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> ps. has anyone bothered to worry how the end-to-end requirements > impact our > ability to gateway to existing im and presence services? some of > them are a > tad too large to ignore... It has been a long-standing principle of IMPP, endorsed by the ADs, that the goal of the WG is to produce a sound architecture for presence and instant messaging on the Internet, not to provide for easy upgrades from vendor X or vendor Y. Given that our most prominent vendors X and Y compete ferociously in this space and others, any other approach would doom us to endless techno-political wrangling as each tried to gain advantage over the other. It would be great to understand the impact of our design choices on those deployed services, but to date we have not had a lot of luck in getting credible analysis. The problem is partly that because of the inter-vendor rivalry, we usually learn nothing from "the inside." And on the rare occasions when information has been made available, everything appears to have been spun or filtered so as to conform to that week's marketing position. --Mark [reminder: [email protected] for non-technical discussions, please]