Re: [IPFIX] Review of draft-irtf-nmrg-location-ipfix-07.txt

Abdelkader Lahmadi <[email protected]> Thu, 24 Nov 2016 15:43:22 +0100
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Hi,
Thank you for the feedback. please see comments inline, I hope that they =
help make things clear.
> On 23 Nov 2016, at 12:02, Stewart Bryant <[email protected]> =
wrote:
>=20
>=20
> Collecting this data is not particularly difficult, but protecting the =
privacy is much harder and will, I imagine be subject to significant =
scrutiny as the draft progresses.

The core subject of the draft is far from providing solutions of privacy =
issues when collecting sensitive data. We have clearly mentioned the =
privacy issue in our draft in section =E2=80=99Security and Privacy =
Considerations=E2=80=99. In the section we have referenced existing RFCs =
that have addressed this issue for location information : [RFC3694], =
[RFC3693] and also Flow record anonymization [RFC6235].

>=20
> It seems to me that there are security and privacy issues concerning =
both the traffic and the collector itself. The privacy of the user is a =
widely understood concept and will I am sure be thoroughly examined in =
review. In the case of the collector I am not convinced that it is wise =
to reveal the precise location of the network infrastructure since this =
could result in it being subject to physical attack.

In my opinion, we can also imagine another scenario where location =
information will help operators to identify that their equipments have =
not be moved or stolen, so associating IP flows to the location of the =
device is helpful in this case.

>=20
> An approach that you do not seem to explore is encrypting the location =
record so that this can only be understood by those that are authorised =
to see it.

We have mentioned in the section =E2=80=99Security and privacy =
Consideration=E2=80=99 that location information SHOULD be signed and =
encrypted as specified in [RFC7011].

> Indeed there is a case for something analogous to the selective =
availability system in GPS whereby the location is provided with =
different degrees of precision depending on the authority of the user.
>=20
In section =E2=80=98Enabling Location Extensions=E2=80=99, we have =
mentioned that the metering process selects a location method when many =
are available with different degrees of precision. Yes, we can make it =
more clear by also mentioning that the selection depends on the =
authority of the user.
Best regards,


> - Stewart
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>=20
> On 23/11/2016 02:33, Zhoutianran wrote:
>> Hi,
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>> Though IPFIX is concluded, could the IPFIX experts in this mailing =
list please help to provide comments for this I-D?
>> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-irtf-nmrg-location-ipfix
>>=20
>> It seems this work has a long history. Your help will push this work =
a step forward.
>>=20
>>=20
>> Thanks,
>> Tianran
>>=20
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