Re: [IPFIX] Review of draft-irtf-nmrg-location-ipfix-07.txt
Abdelkader Lahmadi <[email protected]> Thu, 24 Nov 2016 15:43:22 +0100
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--===============2068896401861859018== Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="Apple-Mail=_5F31D5C6-F96D-4491-93BB-22E15365282E"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha512 --Apple-Mail=_5F31D5C6-F96D-4491-93BB-22E15365282E Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Hi, Thank you for the feedback. please see comments inline, I hope that they = help make things clear. > On 23 Nov 2016, at 12:02, Stewart Bryant <[email protected]> = wrote: >=20 >=20 > Collecting this data is not particularly difficult, but protecting the = privacy is much harder and will, I imagine be subject to significant = scrutiny as the draft progresses. The core subject of the draft is far from providing solutions of privacy = issues when collecting sensitive data. We have clearly mentioned the = privacy issue in our draft in section =E2=80=99Security and Privacy = Considerations=E2=80=99. In the section we have referenced existing RFCs = that have addressed this issue for location information : [RFC3694], = [RFC3693] and also Flow record anonymization [RFC6235]. >=20 > It seems to me that there are security and privacy issues concerning = both the traffic and the collector itself. The privacy of the user is a = widely understood concept and will I am sure be thoroughly examined in = review. In the case of the collector I am not convinced that it is wise = to reveal the precise location of the network infrastructure since this = could result in it being subject to physical attack. In my opinion, we can also imagine another scenario where location = information will help operators to identify that their equipments have = not be moved or stolen, so associating IP flows to the location of the = device is helpful in this case. >=20 > An approach that you do not seem to explore is encrypting the location = record so that this can only be understood by those that are authorised = to see it. We have mentioned in the section =E2=80=99Security and privacy = Consideration=E2=80=99 that location information SHOULD be signed and = encrypted as specified in [RFC7011]. > Indeed there is a case for something analogous to the selective = availability system in GPS whereby the location is provided with = different degrees of precision depending on the authority of the user. >=20 In section =E2=80=98Enabling Location Extensions=E2=80=99, we have = mentioned that the metering process selects a location method when many = are available with different degrees of precision. Yes, we can make it = more clear by also mentioning that the selection depends on the = authority of the user. Best regards, > - Stewart >=20 >=20 > On 23/11/2016 02:33, Zhoutianran wrote: >> Hi, >>=20 >> Though IPFIX is concluded, could the IPFIX experts in this mailing = list please help to provide comments for this I-D? >> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-irtf-nmrg-location-ipfix >>=20 >> It seems this work has a long history. Your help will push this work = a step forward. >>=20 >>=20 >> Thanks, >> Tianran >>=20 >> _______________________________________________ >> IPFIX mailing list >> [email protected] >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ipfix >=20 > _______________________________________________ > IPFIX mailing list > [email protected] > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ipfix --Apple-Mail=_5F31D5C6-F96D-4491-93BB-22E15365282E Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=signature.asc Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Description: Message signed with OpenPGP using GPGMail -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Comment: GPGTools - https://gpgtools.org iQIcBAEBCgAGBQJYNvyKAAoJEBX1Mi7AAzI6UY4QAKYGixkLTjZQYN4TjjD0KvhH rGjZRuGvedoFkD3Jw46zNCMX1RTLy+QLZe9y1QepCN0/pUHE3zSyhgjZwFKEYBKb NVmb7RJAVz1MzH97oqJvi2aboZ74KWa3gub8SfWhd/NRQQVWNtAGP0WU3IscCoSR bMCec5v4RqpjMn7j4osOV8Hinh7zNCaxotHtigcXbEto2O22RgikGwYof0jcEgSk BlGizewneTkSoKeL8ctMcKX73txDACQh0imevy7eLj94t8owL+S0cEQfXoT3s/cT /uPmyG8/jsNO5K7qRCMHie75uhkY8SMnRc3VKZ7WwVpEg9qeA+D52Uyq7FZ/4xYa QSUGZZPXy8VX9u2KmklnBBk0ii9zRCiBcZd3VPB8Ea8nSQmx57IX24svAi59U8LC BCIdeHFIAkFdPTh2sXfiDpZygN0L9UKP92+0OLr/uHxq4EacsyYKglh1g1MIIG/Y 43khkojNbNhebODcVfsZw2Kk8+/Wy1vgxgt5uMfGk3PIMDARWbjcLEcUzbn+zl59 BGnx48CoXWni6bYsp44NenM+vc0sWJWcpra+tkQcA76aEdT6rt1Jsqzy8pUEusK/ /Q6+eIRzO4qAa4f51KAo/0KVqZEOcO+Uy2iA4Etl0AlR28Ne1I7u36AuYRsWDHJV bKyXf3/PzYBGY8ae8AIi =r7uS -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Apple-Mail=_5F31D5C6-F96D-4491-93BB-22E15365282E-- --===============2068896401861859018== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ IPFIX mailing list [email protected] https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ipfix --===============2068896401861859018==--