Re: Montenegrin has been given an ISO 639-3 code

Peter Constable <[email protected]>
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This is not coming into 639-3 by typical 639-3 process, but rather via 639-2 process. Since the 639-3 RA updates on a regular cycle while the 639-2 RA does so irregularly, since changes to part 2 are infrequent, I expect this might show up in code tables for 639-2 before 639-3.



> Which, of course, are essentially the same language.



Yes, "sr-ME" and "cnr" are effectively synonymous.


> The proponents of the new code element, along with everyone else who deals with content in this language, will have to live with the ramifications of requesting this code...



The request for this new code element came from the National Library of Montenegro. They might not have difficulties if the only thing used within their system is "cnr". But lots of others will have to deal with ramifications. This issue was brought up in the ISO 639-RA/JAC discussion, but most members (those not involved in IT) did not see that as a concern that drove their decision.







Peter



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From: Ietf-languages [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Doug Ewell
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Subject: Re: [Ietf-languages] Montenegrin has been given an ISO 639-3 code



Michael Everson wrote:



> The code is “cnr”.



Is this request, let alone its approval status, listed anywhere on the

639-3 site? Or was it approved in a separate, non-public process?



> This may have implications for us; we use sr-ME, do we not?



People tagging and searching for content do, yes.



Addison noted in response to this:



> "sr-ME" means Serbian as used in Montenegro. "cnr-ME" would mean

> Montenegrin as used in Montenegro.



Which, of course, are essentially the same language. The proponents of the new code element, along with everyone else who deals with content in this language, will have to live with the ramifications of requesting this code. Content tagged "sr-ME" will not disappear or be retagged overnight. Searching on one tag or the other will return only some of the desired results, unless search providers add custom code to handle this case.



Peter Constable wrote:



> Yes, sh/hbs is the macrolanguage encompassing cnr. That macrolanguage

> also encompasses bs/bos, hr/hrv and sr/srp.



We will certainly need to take that into account when the 639-3 data files are updated and we add this to the Registry.

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Doug Ewell | Thornton, CO, US | ewellic.org





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