Re: Swaziland becomes Eswatini

Hugh Paterson <[email protected]> Tue, 17 Jul 2018 15:07:55 -0700
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My name is not MacDonald, so I would't use that as the value for familyName
if I were to write a FOAF profile for myself. I did write a paper for ICPhS
on my iMac. Most students there were PhD candidates. Since publishing in
phonetics I have moved on to JavaScript, where in geoJSON I have learned to
write my data keys as camelCase, you know for convention following sake. My
wife is an Africanist (mostly Niger-Congo), and in the languages she works
with most often, there is a lot of prefix hyphenation. I figure this comes
from French where infinitive plus pronoun can be separated such as in
aide-moi. If any of you are going to TypeCon2018 in Portland, Oregon maybe
we could have a vis-à-vis, and discuss this issue. It seems that the issue
could be considered a word boundary issue rather than a capitalization
convention. That is, some languages don't require spaces between words, and
there are two distinct strategies for showing word separation without
spaces: camelCase and hyphenation; though in computer data structures we
also see snake_Case. In my professional writing I have never had an
objection to using an autonym including its normalized capitalization in
its orthography (especially when it is a Latin script).

On Tue, Jul 17, 2018 at 10:24 AM, John Cowan <[email protected]> wrote:

>
>
> On Tue, Jul 17, 2018 at 11:33 AM, Doug Ewell <[email protected]> wrote:
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>> Um, he's a king. He gets to do things like change the name of his
>> country on a whim, and without asking his subjects. That's what absolute
>> monarchs do.
>>
>
> What is more, this is not even like the switch from Central African
> Republic
> to Central African Empire (since reverted).  All the king is doing is
> telling people
> to use the Swazi/siSwati name of the country in English as well.  This is
> not
> so different from switching from "Sandwich Islands" to "Hawaiian Islands"..
>
>
>> As I wrote, both ISO 3166 and apparently the government are using
>> "eSwatini" in Swati-language contexts, but "Eswatini" in
>> English-language contexts. It looked wrong to me too, but it's their
>> call really.
>>
>
> inDeed, but words like "iMac" do look terrible in English at the beginning
> of
> sentences in particular.
>
> --
> John Cowan          http://vrici.lojban.org/~cowan        [email protected]
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