RE: A philosophical question about large directory structures
Andrew Probert <[email protected]> Thu, 24 Jun 1999 08:55:43 +1000
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The killer app is again networking machines and devices and ecommerce! Take a look at what Novell, Microsoft, Netscape, CISCO are all doing in network management that is LDAP based and / or modelled on X.500. Devices are relatively private. The information you need to know about devices is too dense to be supported in DNS only. Devices don't care about privacy too much. They have funding. Take a look a SET type ecommerce. (Please don't raise the SET is dead argument). 50% of credit card chargebacks are due to Internet and rising so the funding engine is there, all they need is the right deployable solution. Regards Andew Probert Rotek Consulting http://www.rotek.com.au a Division of Secure Network Solutions Tel +61 3 9690 8877 Fax +61 3 9690 8171 > -----Original Message----- > From: Leslie Daigle [SMTP:[email protected]] > Sent: Thursday, June 24, 1999 12:00 AM > To: [email protected] > Cc: [email protected] > Subject: Re: A philosophical question about large directory > structures > > Howdy, > > [Harald wrote:] > > My feeling is that it won't happen until someone creates it, and > > nobody > > will create it until someone wants to pay for it. Up front. > > > > Who do we expect to pay? > > And why will they? > > I think that, whenever we (IETF) delve into the question of "who will > pay", we've wandered out of our realm of effectiveness. > > I interpret your question as: there is a general feeling that > a unified directory service would be a Very Useful Thing, and > as finding a funding model seems to be the impediment, let's talk about > the funding model. > > The problem is that protocols don't have funding models, services > do. The IETF doesn't do services (much), it does protocols. So, > I question what can be usefully discussed on this front before > a seemingly-useful service comes into existence (more opinions on > that, elsewhere). > > Alternatively, a global directory of so-called whitepages information > may be brought into existence if it is required in order to support > some other piece of service infrastructure -- a global directory > of machine names was developed when it was needed in order to support > interconnections of machines. This putative directory may have > very little to do with serving up e-mail addresses to the casual > user; but perhaps we should be considering instead what IS the > "killer app" of directory service information, where is this going > to be developed, and what should be done to better service it? > > Leslie. > > -- > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > "What are the potential gains, and Leslie Daigle > why do they weigh so much??!" [email protected] > -- David Holmes > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------