Re: mboned: draft-liu-magma-igmpv3-mldv2-lite-00.txt

>> I would prefer to see, at least once in the beginning, that joining
>> (*,G) is equivalent to ASM. This makes it clear that IGMPv3/MLDv2 are
>> also usable for ASM, to potentially replace all previous versions of
>> IGMP and MLD.

    It depends how you use the term ASM. We want an IGMPv3 host to join
    a (*,G) entry where the network has that group configured to run in 
    Bidir-PIM mode. And in many circles the term ASM is different mode than
    Bidir-PIM mode.

    But I agree with your point in principle. It's just jargon I'm raising.

>> Also, maybe I've missed something obvious, but clearly EXCLUDE(null)
>> means joining (*,G) like ASM. What does INCLUDE(null) mean? Below:

    Prune (*,G). But again for clarity why use the double-negative when
    Include-All and Exclude-All can do the same thing.

>> implies it means the same thing as EXCLUDE(null). But logically, I don't
>> see that.

    Right, but at the same time I fixed the double-negative situation and
    having two ways to join (*,G) and leave (*,G). Less options are good
    for implementors and encourage interoperability sooner.     ;-)

Dino