[manet] Re: non-manet islands as a large manet router

David 'equinox' Lamparter <[email protected]>
Newsgroups gmane.ietf.manet
Message-ID <[email protected]>
Hi Fred,

On Wed, Mar 19, 2025 at 06:12:56PM +0000, Templin (US), Fred L wrote:
> >> If manet border routers have some means of discovering each other, it's
> >> certainly possible to do something similar on the internet, though it
> >> would likely require (automatic) tunneling between border routers.
> >> And whether it provides any benefit (particularly the "looks like one
> >> large manet router" part) is a separate question.
> 
> With the AERO/OMNI link abstraction I spoke to in my talk, I call the things
> you are calling "MANET border routers" as "Proxy/Servers". These elements
> do represent each MANET as an aggregated network to the outside
> Internetwork. And, as you say, it is based on automatic tunneling although
> I prefer to call it simply "encapsulation". The encapsulation produces a
> new layer in the architecture known as the "adaptation layer" which makes
> MANET Internetworking possible.

Indeed the concept is common enough, thus my prefacing my mic comment
with "for completeness" - I wanted to point out the reverse direction.
It's the outside network (or an island) being aggregated and exposed as
a kind of virtual single node.  It makes for... let's say 'somewhere
between curious and neat' behavior with MANETs that would otherwise
split & merge when paths thin down to only via the internet (or the
island.)

(I apologize for not being able to provide more information on that
curiosity.)

Cheers,


-equi
(David)

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