Re: FTC stuff 0) Lies 1)Yahoo & DK. 2)GoDaddy DNS & SPF & CSV. 3)Dean & FUSSP. 4)Testing 5)EFF, Anonymity.
Dave Crocker <[email protected]>
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On Sat, 20 Nov 2004 09:33:05 -0500, Alan DeKok wrote: > The key here is "open discussion"... Some major keys to open discussion is that people avoid ad hominem attacks -- for example, they do not call people liars -- and they avoid hyperbole. For example: > The failure of SMTP to protect from forgery, malicious bounces, > etc. is a failure of the security model of SMTP. The security model of SMTP is the same as the security model for sending paper letters and for making phone calls. To "fail" requires that there be a goal that was not attained. That's not the case here. The case here is that real threats changed after 25 years of operation and we need to adjust to them. When crime goes up because a small town becomes a big city, and we have to add locks to our doors, we do not say that the security model that used to work "failed". We say that it changed. The key to open discussion is that people say things thoughtfully and with an attempt to be accurate and precise. d/ -- Dave Crocker Brandenburg InternetWorking +1.408.246.8253 dcrocker a t ... www.brandenburg.com