[DMM] Re: draft-liebsch-dmm-mts-03 review

Marco Liebsch <[email protected]> Fri, 26 Sep 2025 13:18:24 +0000
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Hi John,

many thanks for your constructive comments and suggestions.

Please see for feedback inline [ml].

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From: Kaippallimalil John <[email protected]>=20
Sent: Montag, 22. September 2025 15:11
To: Distributed Mobility Management Discussion List <[email protected]>; =
Marco Liebsch <[email protected]>
Subject: draft-liebsch-dmm-mts-03 review

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Hi Marco, All,

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The draft identifies a gap/problem in 5G systems and the need to =
(re)select and steer flows.

This draft can provide value and insight into a complex area. There are =
gaps currently as 5G/3GPP does not fully cover the N6/IP segments of the =
E2E path.

However, the draft describes too much of existing/standards (using =
different names and terms), and it is not easy for a reader to =
distinguish the gaps from already specified standards.

A couple of suggestions:

1.	Since the architecture in section 4 is 5G, why not use the same =
terminology/refer to TS 23.501. And add concepts that are new.
This will make the text shorter and allow readers to see clearly what =
the gaps are. For example, what part of the architecture in Figure 4 is =
covered in 23.501, and what isn=E2=80=99t (same for many others).

[ml] The draft proposes a solution that applies to a general mobile =
communication system architecture that also 3GPP follows. Most relevant =
for the draft is the mobile architecture=E2=80=99s entry points
for user- and control-plane, which we depict in the reference =
architecture of a mobile communication system. Intention from the very =
beginning was to keep the draft independent of 3GPP but
complementary and compatible with a general function architecture of =
mobile communication systems. However, applicability and compatibility =
with the 3GPP architecture is of course wanted.

Keeping the draft independent of the current 3GPP specs was also =
requested from various sides. We can discuss if and how it could be =
addressed for information, if needed.

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2.	Regarding the gaps, there are architectural principles and options in =
section 5 + but the draft does not outline the tradeoffs or say when one =
option is preferrable over the other.=20
For example: if services/network require to only maximize bandwidth =
utilization vs. guarantees on latency/bandwidth. And, resilience, =
complexity  (e.g., O(n^2) vs O (n), scalability, etc.

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[ml] Good point, we will add more details about when a particular =
deployment is preferrable and where the tradeoff is. Also for the =
operational details we plan to add more details in the next revision.


Another aspect is the relation between this draft and CATS. Where are =
they complementary, or an alternative and the rationale for choosing =
among these methods of steering.

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[ml] We presented the MTS draft in CATS during IETF123 to make the group =
aware and explained where is complements CATS and how their architecture =
can use it. It=E2=80=99s between the CATS control plane
and the mobile communication system in case CATS applies not only to =
compute-aware traffic steering but if they need to inter-work with =
mobile communication systems.
We offered help in capturing this in their work and documents, e.g. in =
terms of clear interfaces and synergies.

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Some detailed comments:

a.	Abstract & section 4.1 refer to =E2=80=9Ctwo architectural =
principles=E2=80=9D but is not clarified what it is until much later.=20
The reader must read until section 5 to understand what it is about =
steering. It should be stated much earlier and described later for =
easier reading.

[ml] Valid point, we=E2=80=99ll capture the aspects of later details and =
differences coming with these options earlier in the draft. Thanks. A =
result from adding more specifications and
details in the back and not checking if these are properly introduced at =
the beginning of the document =F0=9F=98=89

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b.	Section 2 / Introduction: discusses =E2=80=9C how existing or new =
IETF technology can serve as enabler to accomplish service continuity =
for a mobile user in such agile and dynamic system by means of =
controlled treatment of a mobile user's end-to-end traffic for steering, =
with an option to extend for advanced treatment policies, such as =
traffic engineering.=E2=80=9D
Many concepts, and options make it hard to follow:
(1) the scope has steering and =E2=80=9Cadvanced treatment =
policies=E2=80=9D, and steering policies. What exactly are the =
differences?=20

[ml] Thanks for the hint, we will be more thorough in the use of these =
terms and include clarifying details once to let the reader know how we =
use these terms in the context of the draft.


(2) does advanced treatment policies refer to QoS aspects?

[ml] Yes, steering is the primary objective but early when discussing =
this work there were views that QoS should be covered. So, beyond =
steering, advanced policies can address QoS, metering, etc. We will be =
more clear in a revision.


(3) steering and service continuity: does user mobility trigger =
steering, or does measurement on path trigger steering, or both?

[ml] it=E2=80=99s both and even beyond that. We see various triggers =
that require steering and want to clarify this in the use cases section. =
User mobility is typically handled by the mobile communication system,
keeping a stable user plane anchor point. We do not touch this. Now and =
in the future, more re-configurations are/will be supported by mobile =
communication systems that may re-locate such anchor
point or use multiple anchor points concurrently in the view of route =
optimization between a mobile device and its multiple used service in =
distributed data centers. Also a change in the transport network,
e.g. failure or movement of a data plane node may require updated =
steering policies. Please consider that the draft wants to complement a =
mobile communication system by means of
inter-working and not interfere with it.


(4) The draft has many terms like =E2=80=9Cflexible deployment=E2=80=9D, =
dynamic re-configurability, complexity which can be understood in =
different ways.

c.	Section 4.2. MCS Proactive UPA relocation : =
=E2=80=9Cproactive=E2=80=9D is a bit confusing and depends on =
perspective.=20
(1) =E2=80=9CDue to mobility, the MCS may relocate the mobile user's UPA =
from UPA1 to UPA2=E2=80=9D: that would seem more reactive?=20

[ml] From the viewpoint of the transport network and the MTS controller =
it=E2=80=99s proactive by the mobile communication system, while the =
transport network needs to react. Scenario per Sec. 4.3  is reactive,
where the MTS controller or further instance on the path towards the =
data network forces a change in traffic steering, and the mobile =
communication system needs to react according to the MTS =
controller=E2=80=99s advice.
Let us again parse the description and we=E2=80=99ll try to be clearer =
here in case it=E2=80=99s confusing.


(2) =E2=80=9CIn case the user's IP address needs to continue only as =
long as the data session with ASF1 takes ..=E2=80=9D How does UPA know =
how long the session lasts?=20

[ml] You are right, we take an assumption on the transient use of a =
user=E2=80=99s IP address before it=E2=80=99s deprecated and at some =
point in time the UE starts using a newer address. Temporarily it may =
keep both addresses
until sessions, that use the older address, terminate. A case often =
discussed in the past, while details about its implementation differ.  =
For this draft such control is considered out of scope.
Let us parse this use case again and see how much details can be assumed =
as they are not relevant for MTS between a user plane anchor and the =
data network, and what else we need to consider in the draft.
This is something we can investigate and address in the information/data =
model that the draft defines, in case associated semantic is useful on =
the addressed interface.

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d.	Section 4.2 =E2=80=9CIn order to keep routing paths short and latency =
low, the ASF may be relocated from ASF1 to ASF2=E2=80=9D. How does ASF =
/data network know how to do this?
Does MCS proactively relocate the UPA (UPA1 -> UPA2) based on some =
measurements of the path UPA1 =E2=80=93 ASF1 and expect to have better =
performance after the move UPA2 -> ASF1?

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[ml] Similar to the above, it may be negotiated and controlled within or =
between data networks. 3GPP addressed such cases in the past by means of =
single/multiple Application Function (AF) per Application Service (AS),
and inter-actions between them to coordinate such relocation. Also, in =
the past discussion about technical enabler for edge computing, =
relocation of serving edges has been discussed.
Same here, let us see and discuss what we need in the information/data =
model for the MTS interface to support such case, and then we should add =
it.
Please consider we plan to have a clear scope of the interface that we =
want to support and in particular an interface between the MTS =
Controller and any data network services is out of scope. Maybe another =
touchpoint with CATS,
which has inter-working between compute sites and a CATS control plane, =
according to my knowledge.

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e.	Section 4.4: =E2=80=9CA MCS provide may deploy distributed UPAs in =
order to shorten the route and resulting latency for the communication =
between two mobile users=E2=80=9D
Why is there a need to move UPA for shorter paths? Isn=E2=80=99t it =
possible to have a routed network (with DPNs) that select the =
shortest/lower latency path etc.
The problem seems to be that the UPA is not distributed enough (that one =
has to move from UPA1 -> UPA2 to get a shorter path to UPA3)

[ml] The rationale behind this is when the mobile communication system =
has far-edge kind of distributed user plane anchors, in an extreme case =
anchor co-located with radio base station (similar to the ANUP draft in =
DMM).
Here the anchor should be relocated in alignment with a handover between =
a user=E2=80=99s radio base station. DPN associated with an anchor needs =
steering rules to forward data plane packets to the new, re-located user =
plane
anchor of its communication peer. But I understand and agree that more =
clarifying description for this use case is needed, e.g. by means of =
added incremental steps with description to the text. We=E2=80=99ll =
implement this in
the next revision.

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f.	Section 5:/ deployment options. Between the different options what is =
the trade-off in terms of scale and complexity (of =
provisioning/maintaining the paths)
See overall comments also.

[ml] Understood and confirmed as part of your comment (2) above. We will =
introduce the rationale behind these options earlier in the draft and =
details about advantages and constraints
with each options in Sec. 5.

Again, many comments and suggestions that help us improving the =
document. Many thanks, John.

Best regards,

marco

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Best Regards,

John


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class=3DWordSection1><p class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-GB =
style=3D'mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>Hi John,<br><br>many thanks for =
your constructive comments and suggestions.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-GB =
style=3D'mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>Please see for feedback inline =
[ml].<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-GB =
style=3D'mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-GB =
style=3D'mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><div><di=
v style=3D'border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm =
0cm 0cm'><p class=3DMsoNormal><b><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;mso-ligatures:=
none'>From:</span></b><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;mso-ligatures:=
none'> Kaippallimalil John &lt;[email protected]&gt; =
<br><b>Sent:</b> Montag, 22. September 2025 15:11<br><b>To:</b> =
Distributed Mobility Management Discussion List &lt;[email protected]&gt;; =
Marco Liebsch &lt;[email protected]&gt;<br><b>Subject:</b> =
draft-liebsch-dmm-mts-03 review<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
lang=3DEN-US>Hi Marco, All,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-US><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-US>The draft identifies a gap/problem =
in 5G systems and the need to (re)select and steer =
flows.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span lang=3DEN-US>This draft can provide =
value and insight into a complex area. There are gaps currently as =
5G/3GPP does not fully cover the N6/IP segments of the E2E =
path.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
lang=3DEN-US>However, the draft describes too much of existing/standards =
(using different names and terms), and it is not easy for a reader to =
distinguish the gaps from already specified =
standards.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
lang=3DEN-US>A couple of suggestions:<o:p></o:p></span></p><ol =
style=3D'margin-top:0cm' start=3D1 type=3D1><li class=3DMsoListParagraph =
style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt;margin-left:0cm;mso-list:l1 level1 =
lfo3'><span lang=3DEN-US>Since the architecture in section 4 is 5G, why =
not use the same terminology/refer to TS 23.501. And add concepts that =
are new.<br>This will make the text shorter and allow readers to see =
clearly what the gaps are. For example, what part of the architecture in =
Figure 4 is covered in 23.501, and what isn=E2=80=99t (same for many =
others).<o:p></o:p></span></li></ol><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
lang=3DEN-US>[ml] The draft proposes a solution that applies to a =
general mobile communication system architecture that also 3GPP follows. =
Most relevant for the draft is the mobile architecture=E2=80=99s entry =
points<br>for user- and control-plane, which we depict in the reference =
architecture of a mobile communication system. Intention from the very =
beginning was to keep the draft independent of 3GPP but<br>complementary =
and compatible with a general function architecture of mobile =
communication systems. However, applicability and compatibility with the =
3GPP architecture is of course wanted.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-US>Keeping the draft independent of =
the current 3GPP specs was also requested from various sides. We can =
discuss if and how it could be addressed for information, if =
needed.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span =
lang=3DEN-US><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><ol style=3D'margin-top:0cm' =
start=3D2 type=3D1><li class=3DMsoListParagraph =
style=3D'margin-left:0cm;mso-list:l1 level1 lfo3'><span =
lang=3DEN-US>Regarding the gaps, there are architectural principles and =
options in section 5 + but the draft does not outline the tradeoffs or =
say when one option is preferrable over the other. <br>For example: if =
services/network require to only maximize bandwidth utilization vs. =
guarantees on latency/bandwidth. And, resilience, complexity =
&nbsp;(e.g., O(n^2) vs O (n), scalability, =
etc.<o:p></o:p></span></li></ol><p class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'background:lime;mso-highlight:lime'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>=
<p class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-US>[ml] Good point, we will add =
more details about when a particular deployment is preferrable and where =
the tradeoff is. Also for the operational details we plan to add more =
details in the next revision.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'margin-left:36.0pt'><span lang=3DEN-US><br>Another aspect is =
the relation between this draft and CATS. Where are they complementary, =
or an alternative and the rationale for choosing among these methods of =
steering.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
lang=3DEN-US><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
lang=3DEN-US>[ml] We presented the MTS draft in CATS during IETF123 to =
make the group aware and explained where is complements CATS and how =
their architecture can use it. It=E2=80=99s between the CATS control =
plane<br>and the mobile communication system in case CATS applies not =
only to compute-aware traffic steering but if they need to inter-work =
with mobile communication systems.<br>We offered help in capturing this =
in their work and documents, e.g. in terms of clear interfaces and =
synergies.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
lang=3DEN-US><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
lang=3DEN-US><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
lang=3DEN-US>Some detailed comments:<o:p></o:p></span></p><ol =
style=3D'margin-top:0cm' start=3D1 type=3Da><li class=3DMsoListParagraph =
style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt;margin-left:0cm;mso-list:l3 level1 =
lfo6'><span lang=3DEN-US>Abstract &amp; section 4.1 refer to =
=E2=80=9C</span><span lang=3DEN-US style=3D'font-family:"Courier =
New"'>two architectural principles</span><span lang=3DEN-US>=E2=80=9D =
but is not clarified what it is until much later. <br>The reader must =
read until section 5 to understand what it is about steering. It should =
be stated much earlier and described later for easier =
reading.<o:p></o:p></span></li></ol><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
lang=3DEN-US>[ml] Valid point, we=E2=80=99ll capture the aspects of =
later details and differences coming with these options earlier in the =
draft. Thanks. A result from adding more specifications and<br>details =
in the back and not checking if these are properly introduced at the =
beginning of the document </span><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-family:"Segoe UI =
Emoji",sans-serif'>=F0=9F=98=89</span><span =
lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span =
lang=3DEN-US><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><ol style=3D'margin-top:0cm' =
start=3D2 type=3Da><li class=3DMsoListParagraph =
style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt;margin-left:0cm;mso-list:l3 level1 =
lfo6'><span lang=3DEN-US>Section 2 / Introduction: discusses =E2=80=9C =
how existing or new IETF technology can serve as enabler to accomplish =
service continuity for a mobile user in such agile and dynamic system by =
means of controlled treatment of a mobile user's end-to-end traffic for =
steering, with an option to extend for advanced treatment policies, such =
as traffic engineering.=E2=80=9D<br>Many concepts, and options make it =
hard to follow:<br>(1) the scope has steering and =E2=80=9Cadvanced =
treatment policies=E2=80=9D, and steering policies. What exactly are the =
differences? <o:p></o:p></span></li></ol><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
lang=3DEN-US>[ml] Thanks for the hint, we will be more thorough in the =
use of these terms and include clarifying details once to let the reader =
know how we use these terms in the context of the =
draft.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:0cm;margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:12.0pt;mar=
gin-left:36.0pt'><span lang=3DEN-US><br>(2) does advanced treatment =
policies refer to QoS aspects?<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span lang=3DEN-US>[ml] Yes, steering is =
the primary objective but early when discussing this work there were =
views that QoS should be covered. So, beyond steering, advanced policies =
can address QoS, metering, etc. We will be more clear in a =
revision.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:0cm;margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:12.0pt;mar=
gin-left:36.0pt'><span lang=3DEN-US><br>(3) steering and service =
continuity: does user mobility trigger steering, or does measurement on =
path trigger steering, or both?<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span lang=3DEN-US>[ml] =
it=E2=80=99s both and even beyond that. </span><span lang=3DEN-US>We see =
various triggers that require steering and want to clarify this in the =
use cases section. User mobility is typically handled by the mobile =
communication system,<br>keeping a stable user plane anchor point. We do =
not touch this. Now and in the future, more re-configurations are/will =
be supported by mobile communication systems that may re-locate such =
anchor<br>point or use multiple anchor points concurrently in the view =
of route optimization between a mobile device and its multiple used =
service in distributed data centers. Also a change in the transport =
network,<br>e.g. failure or movement of a data plane node may require =
updated steering policies. Please consider that the draft wants to =
complement a mobile communication system by means of<br>inter-working =
and not interfere with it.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:0cm;margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:12.0pt;mar=
gin-left:36.0pt'><span lang=3DEN-US><br>(4) The draft has many terms =
like =E2=80=9Cflexible deployment=E2=80=9D, dynamic re-configurability, =
complexity which can be understood in different =
ways.<o:p></o:p></span></p><ol style=3D'margin-top:0cm' start=3D3 =
type=3Da><li class=3DMsoListParagraph =
style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt;margin-left:0cm;mso-list:l3 level1 =
lfo6'><span lang=3DEN-US>Section 4.2. MCS Proactive UPA relocation : =
=E2=80=9Cproactive=E2=80=9D is a bit confusing and depends on =
perspective. <br>(1) =E2=80=9CDue to mobility, the MCS may relocate the =
mobile user's UPA from UPA1 to UPA2=E2=80=9D: that would seem more =
reactive? <o:p></o:p></span></li></ol><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
lang=3DEN-US>[ml] From the viewpoint of the transport network and the =
MTS controller it=E2=80=99s proactive by the mobile communication =
system, while the transport network needs to react. Scenario per Sec. =
4.3&nbsp; is reactive,<br>where the MTS controller or further instance =
on the path towards the data network forces a change in traffic =
steering, and the mobile communication system needs to react according =
to the MTS controller=E2=80=99s advice.<br>Let us again parse the =
description and we=E2=80=99ll try to be clearer here in case =
it=E2=80=99s confusing.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:0cm;margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:12.0pt;mar=
gin-left:36.0pt'><span lang=3DEN-US><br>(2) =E2=80=9CIn case the user's =
IP address needs to continue only as long as the data session with ASF1 =
takes ..=E2=80=9D How does UPA know how long the session lasts? =
<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span lang=3DEN-US>[ml] </span><span =
lang=3DEN-US>You are right, we take an assumption on the transient use =
of a user=E2=80=99s IP address before it=E2=80=99s deprecated and at =
some point in time the UE starts using a newer address. Temporarily it =
may keep both addresses<br>until sessions, that use the older address, =
terminate. A case often discussed in the past, while details about its =
implementation differ. &nbsp;For this draft such control is considered =
out of scope.<br>Let us parse this use case again and see how much =
details can be assumed as they are not relevant for MTS between a user =
plane anchor and the data network, and what else we need to consider in =
the draft.<br>This is something we can investigate and address in the =
information/data model that the draft defines, in case associated =
semantic is useful on the addressed interface.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span =
lang=3DEN-US><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><ol style=3D'margin-top:0cm' =
start=3D4 type=3Da><li class=3DMsoListParagraph =
style=3D'margin-left:0cm;mso-list:l3 level1 lfo6'><span =
lang=3DEN-US>Section 4.2 =E2=80=9CIn order to keep routing paths short =
and latency low, the ASF may be relocated from ASF1 to ASF2=E2=80=9D. =
How does ASF /data network know how to do this?<br>Does MCS proactively =
relocate the UPA (UPA1 -&gt; UPA2) based on some measurements of the =
path UPA1 =E2=80=93 ASF1 and expect to have better performance after the =
move UPA2 -&gt; ASF1?<o:p></o:p></span></li></ol><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'background:lime;mso-highlight:lime'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>=
<p class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-US>[ml] </span><span =
lang=3DEN-US>Similar to the above, it may be negotiated and controlled =
within or between data networks. 3GPP addressed such cases in the past =
by means of single/multiple Application Function (AF) per Application =
Service (AS),<br>and inter-actions between them to coordinate such =
relocation. Also, in the past discussion about technical enabler for =
edge computing, relocation of serving edges has been discussed.<br>Same =
here, let us see and discuss what we need in the information/data model =
for the MTS interface to support such case, and then we should add =
it.<br>Please consider we plan to have a clear scope of the interface =
that we want to support and in particular an interface between the MTS =
Controller and any data network services is out of scope. Maybe another =
touchpoint with CATS,<br>which has inter-working between compute sites =
and a CATS control plane, according to my =
knowledge.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
lang=3DEN-US><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoListParagraph><span =
lang=3DEN-US><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><ol style=3D'margin-top:0cm' =
start=3D5 type=3Da><li class=3DMsoListParagraph =
style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt;margin-left:0cm;mso-list:l3 level1 =
lfo6'><span lang=3DEN-US>Section 4.4: =E2=80=9CA MCS provide may deploy =
distributed UPAs in order to shorten the route and resulting latency for =
the communication between two mobile users=E2=80=9D<br>Why is there a =
need to move UPA for shorter paths? Isn=E2=80=99t it possible to have a =
routed network (with DPNs) that select the shortest/lower latency path =
etc.<br>The problem seems to be that the UPA is not distributed enough =
(that one has to move from UPA1 -&gt; UPA2 to get a shorter path to =
UPA3)<o:p></o:p></span></li></ol><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
lang=3DEN-US>[ml] The rationale behind this is when the mobile =
communication system has far-edge kind of distributed user plane =
anchors, in an extreme case anchor co-located with radio base station =
(similar to the ANUP draft in DMM).<br>Here the anchor should be =
relocated in alignment with a handover between a user=E2=80=99s radio =
base station. DPN associated with an anchor needs steering rules to =
forward data plane packets to the new, re-located user plane<br>anchor =
of its communication peer. But I understand and agree that more =
clarifying description for this use case is needed, e.g. by means of =
added incremental steps with description to the text. We=E2=80=99ll =
implement this in<br>the next revision.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span =
lang=3DEN-US><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><ol style=3D'margin-top:0cm' =
start=3D6 type=3Da><li class=3DMsoListParagraph =
style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt;margin-left:0cm;mso-list:l3 level1 =
lfo6'><span lang=3DEN-US>Section 5:/ deployment options. Between the =
different options what is the trade-off in terms of scale and complexity =
(of provisioning/maintaining the paths)<br>See overall comments =
also.<o:p></o:p></span></li></ol><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span lang=3DEN-US>[ml] Understood and =
confirmed as part of your comment (2) above. We will introduce the =
rationale behind these options earlier in the draft and details about =
advantages and constraints<br>with each options in Sec. =
5.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span lang=3DEN-US>Again, many comments =
and suggestions that help us improving the document. Many thanks, =
John.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span lang=3DEN-US>Best =
regards,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span =
lang=3DEN-US>marco<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span =
lang=3DEN-US><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span =
lang=3DEN-US><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
lang=3DEN-US>Best Regards,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
lang=3DEN-US>John<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></body></html>
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