[OPS-AREA]Re: [NMOP] Re: [OPSAREA@IETF126] IRTF/ IETF OPS Transfer: Status & Exploring Collaboration Opportuni ties
"Chongfeng Xie" <[email protected]> Thu, 25 Jun 2026 09:14:50 +0800
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/div><div><br></div><div>Thank you for raising this topic for discussion. =
For the questions about AI agents, I'd like to provide my understanding fo=
r your reference. Network management is a specific application of AI=
, and the management functions can be implemented across various AI agents=
that interact with the different components of the network management sys=
tem. </div><div><br></div><div>Q1. Which AI agents capabilities are s=
uitable for network management? </div><div> A:&nbs=
p; AI agents have the following common capabilities, </div><div=
><br></div><div> - Perception: Processes multi-modal inputs (=
text, images, audio) and tracks context and state over time.</div><div><br=
></div><div> - Planning & Reasoning: Breaks high-level go=
als into actionable sub-tasks, dynamically re-plans when obstacles arise, =
and evaluates trade-offs before acting.</div><div><br></div><div> &n=
bsp; - Tool Use & Execution: Autonomously calls external tools=E2=80=
=94search engines, APIs, calendars, code interpreters, and databases=E2=80=
=94to take real action in the digital world (e.g., send emails, book fligh=
ts, query data).</div><div><br></div><div> - Learning & S=
elf-Correction: Detects errors, reflects on outcomes, iterates on solution=
s, and utilizes both short-term and long-term memory to improve over time.=
</div><div><br></div><div>All the capabilities above are useful for networ=
k management. With the underground support of LLM models, the following fu=
nctionalities can be realized by AI agents in the context of network manag=
ement,</div><div> </div><div> - Inten=
t-based auto-assignment: Automatically routes NOC tickets based on detecte=
d intent.</div><div><br></div><div> - Intelligent root-cause a=
nalysis: Pinpoints fault origins with precision.</div><div><br></div><div>=
- Actionable troubleshooting guidance: Generates step-b=
y-step plans and recommended resolutions.</div><div><br></div><div> =
- AI-driven orchestration: Enables expert-human collaboration =
and automated execution of task reassignments/suspensions.</div><div><br><=
/div><div> - Continuous network optimization: Delivers o=
ngoing tuning recommendations for wireless, core, and cloud-network resour=
ces across diverse scenarios.</div><div><br></div><div> - Auto=
mated recovery verification: Validates fault resolution by querying =
network and perceptual metrics via LLM-orchestrated API calls.</div><div>&=
nbsp; </div><div>Q2. What is the impact of an AI network manag=
ement process to YANG information, service, network and data modelling?</d=
iv><div> A: AI and legcay network management mode=
ls belong to different domains, the specific manangement modelling i=
s aganostic to the AI network manangent process. In other words, AI system=
can process any YANG information, service, network and data modelling.&nb=
sp; </div><div><br></div><div>Q3. Is MCP (https://en.wikipedia.=
org/wiki/Model_Context_Protocol) a suitable protocol between AI agents and=
IETF network management data sources and system components?</div><div>&nb=
sp; A: Yes, as an open standard that connects AI models=
to external data and tools, MCP enables AI assistants to securely read fi=
les, query databases, and execute actions across different applications.&n=
bsp; The likelihood of MCP being used between between AI agents and IETF n=
etwork management data sources and system components is very high. </=
div><div>In addition, other approaches can be used, such as APIs exposed b=
y network controller, in this case, AI agents can call the APIs directly f=
or network device configuration or data collection. </div><div><br></=
div><div>Q4, How does an AI agent interact with Network Digital Twin, Inte=
nt-Based Networking, SIMAP, Knowledge Graphs and YANG data in Message Brok=
ers?</div><div> A: It depends on the specific situation,=
there should be no one-size-fits-all solution.</div><div><br></div><div>T=
he above feedbacks are based on our current practice. As AI for netw=
ork is still in its early stages, our understanding may not be entirely ac=
curate. We welcome any differing opinions.</div><div><br></div><div>Best r=
egards</div><div>Chongfeng</div></div><div><br></div><blockquote style=3D"=
margin-Top: 0px; margin-Bottom: 0px; margin-Left: 0.5em; margin-Right: inh=
erit"><div style=3D"border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0=
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SIZE: 12px;FONT-FAMILY:tahoma;COLOR:#000000; BACKGROUND: #efefef; PADDING-=
BOTTOM: 8px; PADDING-TOP: 8px"><div><b>From:</b> <a href=3D"mailto:Th=
[email protected]" style=3D"color: rgb(70, 120, 134); text-decoration=
: underline;">[email protected]</a></div><div><b>Date:</b> 202=
6-06-21 16:43</div><div><b>To:</b> <a href=3D"mailto:ops-area@ie=
tf.org" style=3D"color: rgb(70, 120, 134); text-decoration: underline;">op=
[email protected]</a>; <a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]" style=3D"color: rg=
b(70, 120, 134); text-decoration: underline;">[email protected]</a>; <a href=
=3D"mailto:[email protected]" style=3D"color: rgb(70, 120, 134); text-decorati=
on: underline;">[email protected]</a>; <a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]" style=
=3D"color: rgb(70, 120, 134); text-decoration: underline;">[email protected]</=
a></div><div><b>CC:</b> <a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]=
m" style=3D"color: rgb(70, 120, 134); text-decoration: underline;">mohamed=
..boucadair</a></div><div><b>Subject:</b> [NMOP] Re: [OPSAREA@IETF126]=
IRTF/IETF OPS Transfer: Status & Exploring Collaboration Opportunitie=
s</div></div></div><div><div class=3D"FoxDiv20260625091121084783">=0A<div =
class=3D"WordSection1" style=3D"page: WordSection1;">=0A<div>=0A<p class=
=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Aptos, =
sans-serif;"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&q=
uot;Trebuchet MS",sans-serif;color:#0E2841">Dear NMRG, NMOP, OPSAWG a=
nd OPSAREA,<o:p></o:p></span></p>=0A<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin=
: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;"><span lang=3D"EN-=
US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-se=
rif;color:#0E2841"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>=0A<p class=3D"MsoNormal" s=
tyle=3D"margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;"><sp=
an lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS=
",sans-serif;color:#0E2841">First of all many thanks to Brad, Dan, Ch=
ristopher, Alex, Qin and Bernard on their feedback. That=E2=80=99s a great=
start.=0A<o:p></o:p></span></p>=0A<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin:=
0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;"><span lang=3D"EN-U=
S" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-ser=
if;color:#0E2841"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>=0A<p class=3D"MsoNormal" st=
yle=3D"margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;"><spa=
n lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS&=
quot;,sans-serif;color:#0E2841;mso-ligatures:none;mso-fareast-language:DE-=
CH">I have been following this thread closely=0A<a href=3D"https://mailarc=
hive.ietf.org/arch/msg/nmop/gTPL1eBj5e3GMMt8qeUWmPP4oMg/" style=3D"color: =
rgb(70, 120, 134); text-decoration: underline;">=0Ahttps://mailarchive.iet=
f.org/arch/msg/nmop/gTPL1eBj5e3GMMt8qeUWmPP4oMg/</a> to understand whereve=
r research and industry adoption comes closer together, wherever there is =
interest for having a joint discussion and on what particular topic.<o:p><=
/o:p></span></p>=0A<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin: 0in; font-size:=
11pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font=
-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif;color:#0E2841=
;mso-ligatures:none;mso-fareast-language:DE-CH"><o:p> </o:p></span></=
p>=0A<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-fa=
mily: Aptos, sans-serif;"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;f=
ont-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif;color:#0E2841;mso-ligatures=
:none;mso-fareast-language:DE-CH">What I observed so far is that we all sh=
are that AI in general and also AIOps research and adoption=0A rate has dr=
amatically increased. So far everybody was very supportive on having a joi=
nt discussion. I would be interested to have more feedback, especially als=
o from those who think that it would not bring much benefit with reasons w=
hy.<o:p></o:p></span></p>=0A<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin: 0in; f=
ont-size: 11pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;"><span lang=3D"EN-US" styl=
e=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif;colo=
r:#0E2841;mso-ligatures:none;mso-fareast-language:DE-CH"><o:p> </o:p>=
</span></p>=0A<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt=
; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size=
:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif;color:#0E2841;mso-=
ligatures:none;mso-fareast-language:DE-CH">From what I observed, having an=
initial discussion on the following existing working group document=0A to=
pics and how they intersect<o:p></o:p></span></p>=0A<p class=3D"MsoNormal"=
style=3D"margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;"><=
span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet =
MS",sans-serif;color:#0E2841;mso-ligatures:none;mso-fareast-language:=
DE-CH"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>=0A<ul style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin=
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ily: Aptos, sans-serif;">=0A<span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt=
;font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif;mso-ligatures:none;mso-fa=
reast-language:DE-CH">Network Digital Twin (<a href=3D"https://datatracker=
..ietf.org/doc/html/draft-irtf-nmrg-network-digital-twin-arch" style=3D"col=
or: rgb(70, 120, 134); text-decoration: underline;">https://datatracker.ie=
tf.org/doc/html/draft-irtf-nmrg-network-digital-twin-arch</a>)<o:p></o:p><=
/span></li><li class=3D"MsoListParagraph" style=3D"color: rgb(14, 40, 65);=
margin: 0in 0in 0in 0.5in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-seri=
f;">=0A<span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tr=
ebuchet MS",sans-serif;mso-ligatures:none;mso-fareast-language:DE-CH"=
>Intent-Based Networking (<a href=3D"https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html=
/draft-irtf-nmrg-ibn-usecases" style=3D"color: rgb(70, 120, 134); text-dec=
oration: underline;">https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-irtf-nmrg=
-ibn-usecases</a>)<o:p></o:p></span></li><li class=3D"MsoListParagraph" st=
yle=3D"color: rgb(14, 40, 65); margin: 0in 0in 0in 0.5in; font-size: 11pt;=
font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;">=0A<span lang=3D"IT" style=3D"font-size:=
10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif;mso-ligatures:none;=
mso-fareast-language:DE-CH">SIMAP (</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"fo=
nt-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif;mso-ligatur=
es:none;mso-fareast-language:DE-CH"><a href=3D"https://datatracker.ietf.or=
g/doc/html/draft-ietf-nmop-simap-concept" style=3D"color: rgb(70, 120, 134=
); text-decoration: underline;"><span lang=3D"IT">https://datatracker.ietf=
..org/doc/html/draft-ietf-nmop-simap-concept</span></a></span><span lang=3D=
"IT" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-s=
erif;mso-ligatures:none;mso-fareast-language:DE-CH">)<o:p></o:p></span></l=
i><li class=3D"MsoListParagraph" style=3D"color: rgb(14, 40, 65); margin: =
0in 0in 0in 0.5in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;">=0A<s=
pan lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet M=
S",sans-serif;mso-ligatures:none;mso-fareast-language:DE-CH">YANG-Pus=
h to Message Broker integration (<a href=3D"https://datatracker.ietf.org/d=
oc/html/draft-ietf-nmop-yang-message-broker-integration" style=3D"color: r=
gb(70, 120, 134); text-decoration: underline;">https://datatracker.ietf.or=
g/doc/html/draft-ietf-nmop-yang-message-broker-integration</a>)<o:p></o:p>=
</span></li></ul>=0A<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin: 0in; font-size=
: 11pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"fon=
t-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif;color:#0E284=
1;mso-ligatures:none;mso-fareast-language:DE-CH"><o:p> </o:p></span><=
/p>=0A<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-f=
amily: Aptos, sans-serif;"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;=
font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif;color:#0E2841;mso-ligature=
s:none;mso-fareast-language:DE-CH">and then having a discussions on the fo=
llowing raised questions perhaps:<o:p></o:p></span></p>=0A<p class=3D"MsoN=
ormal" style=3D"margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-ser=
if;"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Treb=
uchet MS",sans-serif;color:#0E2841;mso-ligatures:none;mso-fareast-lan=
guage:DE-CH"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>=0A<ul style=3D"margin-top: 0px; =
margin-bottom: 0in;" type=3D"disc">=0A<li class=3D"MsoListParagraph" style=
=3D"color: rgb(14, 40, 65); margin: 0in 0in 0in 0.5in; font-size: 11pt; fo=
nt-family: Aptos, sans-serif;">=0A<span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:=
10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif;mso-ligatures:none;=
mso-fareast-language:DE-CH">Which AI agents capabilities are suitable for =
network management?<o:p></o:p></span></li><li class=3D"MsoListParagraph" s=
tyle=3D"color: rgb(14, 40, 65); margin: 0in 0in 0in 0.5in; font-size: 11pt=
; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;">=0A<span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-s=
ize:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif;mso-ligatures:n=
one;mso-fareast-language:DE-CH">What is the impact of an AI network manage=
ment process to YANG information, service, network and data modelling?<o:p=
></o:p></span></li><li class=3D"MsoListParagraph" style=3D"color: rgb(14, =
40, 65); margin: 0in 0in 0in 0.5in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Aptos, s=
ans-serif;">=0A<span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:=
"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif;mso-ligatures:none;mso-fareast-languag=
e:DE-CH">Is MCP (<a href=3D"https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Model_Context_Pr=
otocol" style=3D"color: rgb(70, 120, 134); text-decoration: underline;">ht=
tps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Model_Context_Protocol</a>)=0A a suitable prot=
ocol between AI agents and IETF network management data sources and system=
components?<o:p></o:p></span></li><li class=3D"MsoListParagraph" style=3D=
"color: rgb(14, 40, 65); margin: 0in 0in 0in 0.5in; font-size: 11pt; font-=
family: Aptos, sans-serif;">=0A<span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.=
0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif;mso-ligatures:none;mso=
-fareast-language:DE-CH">How does an AI agent interact with Network Digita=
l Twin, Intent-Based Networking, SIMAP, Knowledge Graphs and YANG data in =
Message=0A Brokers?<o:p></o:p></span></li></ul>=0A<p class=3D"MsoNormal" s=
tyle=3D"margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;"><sp=
an lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS=
",sans-serif;color:#0E2841;mso-ligatures:none;mso-fareast-language:DE=
-CH"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>=0A<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin=
: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;"><span lang=3D"EN-=
US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-se=
rif;color:#0E2841;mso-ligatures:none;mso-fareast-language:DE-CH">and move =
from there into some proposed work addressing these areas. And last but no=
t least maybe=0A wrapping up around running code. How experiments could fa=
cilitate and exchange between both working groups. Alex brought up that AN=
RW is once a year and perhaps on one or two other occasion the two working=
group could continuously actively exchange every year=0A could be an inte=
resting proposal.<o:p></o:p></span></p>=0A<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"=
margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;"><span lang=
=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS",=
sans-serif;color:#0E2841;mso-ligatures:none;mso-fareast-language:DE-CH"><o=
:p> </o:p></span></p>=0A<ul style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: =
0in;" type=3D"disc">=0A<li class=3D"MsoListParagraph" style=3D"color: rgb(=
14, 40, 65); margin: 0in 0in 0in 0.5in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Apto=
s, sans-serif;">=0A<span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-fam=
ily:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif;mso-ligatures:none;mso-fareast-lan=
guage:DE-CH">Would that be a potential interesting agenda for everybody?<o=
:p></o:p></span></li><li class=3D"MsoListParagraph" style=3D"color: rgb(14=
, 40, 65); margin: 0in 0in 0in 0.5in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Aptos,=
sans-serif;">=0A<span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-famil=
y:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif;mso-ligatures:none;mso-fareast-langu=
age:DE-CH">Did I miss anything or shall we focus more on a particular item=
?<o:p></o:p></span></li><li class=3D"MsoListParagraph" style=3D"color: rgb=
(14, 40, 65); margin: 0in 0in 0in 0.5in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Apt=
os, sans-serif;">=0A<span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-fa=
mily:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif;mso-ligatures:none;mso-fareast-la=
nguage:DE-CH">Any particular discussion structure you would fancy?<o:p></o=
:p></span></li></ul>=0A<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin: 0in; font-s=
ize: 11pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"=
font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif;color:#0E=
2841;mso-ligatures:none;mso-fareast-language:DE-CH"><o:p> </o:p></spa=
n></p>=0A<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; fon=
t-family: Aptos, sans-serif;"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0=
pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif;color:#0E2841;mso-ligat=
ures:none;mso-fareast-language:DE-CH">I also observed that authors authori=
ng Knowledge Graph documents have voiced wherever Knowledge=0A Graph could=
be a topic of interest. I would love to see more discussions from other a=
reas on this in particular how this intersects with AIOps and AI assisted =
network management topics. I saw also that ontologies have been mentioned,=
which I personally besides=0A semantics believe plays an important role w=
ith interacting with AI agents.<o:p></o:p></span></p>=0A<p class=3D"MsoNor=
mal" style=3D"margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif=
;"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuc=
het MS",sans-serif;color:#0E2841;mso-ligatures:none;mso-fareast-langu=
age:DE-CH"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>=0A<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"=
margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;"><span lang=
=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS",=
sans-serif;color:#0E2841;mso-ligatures:none;mso-fareast-language:DE-CH">As=
I am human, and not an AI agent, the observations and suggestions might b=
e unintentionally=0A bias. So please feedback and comment.<o:p></o:p></spa=
n></p>=0A<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; fon=
t-family: Aptos, sans-serif;"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0=
pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif;color:#0E2841;mso-ligat=
ures:none;mso-fareast-language:DE-CH"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>=0A<p cl=
ass=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Apto=
s, sans-serif;"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family=
:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif;color:#0E2841;mso-ligatures:none;mso-=
fareast-language:DE-CH">Best wishes<o:p></o:p></span></p>=0A<p class=3D"Ms=
oNormal" style=3D"margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-s=
erif;"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tr=
ebuchet MS",sans-serif;color:#0E2841;mso-ligatures:none;mso-fareast-l=
anguage:DE-CH">Thomas<o:p></o:p></span></p>=0A</div>=0A<p class=3D"MsoNorm=
al" style=3D"margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;=
"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuch=
et MS",sans-serif;color:#0E2841"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>=0A<div>=
=0A<div style=3D"border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt =
0in 0in 0in">=0A<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin: 0in; font-size: 11=
pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;"><b><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font=
-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;mso-ligatures:none;mso-fareast-lang=
uage:DE-CH">From:</span></b><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-family:&quo=
t;Calibri",sans-serif;mso-ligatures:none;mso-fareast-language:DE-CH">=
Graf=0A Thomas, SCS-INI-NET-VNC-E2E <br>=0A<b>Sent:</b> Monday, June 1, 2=
026 7:16 AM<br>=0A<b>To:</b> Nmop <<a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]" sty=
le=3D"color: rgb(70, 120, 134); text-decoration: underline;">[email protected]=
</a>>; <a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]" style=3D"color: rgb(70, 120, 13=
4); text-decoration: underline;">[email protected]</a><br>=0A<b>Cc:</b> Moh=
amed Boucadair <<a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]" style=
=3D"color: rgb(70, 120, 134); text-decoration: underline;">mohamed.boucada=
[email protected]</a>>; nmrg-chairs <<a href=3D"mailto:nmrg-chairs@ietf.=
org" style=3D"color: rgb(70, 120, 134); text-decoration: underline;">nmrg-=
[email protected]</a>>; Nmop-chairs <<a href=3D"mailto:nmop-chairs@iet=
f.org" style=3D"color: rgb(70, 120, 134); text-decoration: underline;">nmo=
[email protected]</a>><br>=0A<b>Subject:</b> FW: [OPSAREA@IETF126] IRTF=
/IETF OPS Transfer: Status & Exploring Collaboration Opportunities<o:p=
></o:p></span></p>=0A</div>=0A</div>=0A<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"mar=
gin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;"><o:p> </o=
:p></p>=0A<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; fo=
nt-family: Aptos, sans-serif;"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family=
:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif;color:#0E2841">Dear NMRG and NMOP,<o:=
p></o:p></span></p>=0A<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin: 0in; font-si=
ze: 11pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt=
;font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif;color:#0E2841"><o:p> =
;</o:p></span></p>=0A<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin: 0in; font-siz=
e: 11pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"fo=
nt-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif;color:#0E28=
41">Med approached me wherever I am willing to facilitate with the support=
of both working group chairs a discussion between NMRG and NMOP on common=
=0A interests.<o:p></o:p></span></p>=0A<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"mar=
gin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;"><span lang=3D"=
EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans=
-serif;color:#0E2841"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>=0A<p class=3D"MsoNormal=
" style=3D"margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;">=
<span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet=
MS",sans-serif;color:#0E2841">Looking at the list of current adopted=
documents<o:p></o:p></span></p>=0A<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin:=
0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;"><span lang=3D"EN-U=
S" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-ser=
if;color:#0E2841"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>=0A<p class=3D"MsoNormal" st=
yle=3D"margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;"><spa=
n lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS&=
quot;,sans-serif;color:#0E2841"><a href=3D"https://datatracker.ietf.org/gr=
oup/nmrg/documents/" style=3D"color: rgb(70, 120, 134); text-decoration: u=
nderline;">https://datatracker.ietf.org/group/nmrg/documents/</a><o:p></o:=
p></span></p>=0A<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin: 0in; font-size: 11=
pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-si=
ze:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif;color:#0E2841"><=
a href=3D"https://datatracker.ietf.org/wg/nmop/documents/" style=3D"color:=
rgb(70, 120, 134); text-decoration: underline;">https://datatracker.ietf.=
org/wg/nmop/documents/</a><o:p></o:p></span></p>=0A<p class=3D"MsoNormal" =
style=3D"margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;"><s=
pan lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet M=
S",sans-serif;color:#0E2841"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>=0A<p class=
=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Aptos, =
sans-serif;"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&q=
uot;Trebuchet MS",sans-serif;color:#0E2841">but also looking at AIOps=
related proposals=0A<a href=3D"https://github.com/IETF-OPS-AD/misc/blob/m=
ain/ai-submissions-ietf125.md" style=3D"color: rgb(70, 120, 134); text-dec=
oration: underline;">=0Ahttps://github.com/IETF-OPS-AD/misc/blob/main/ai-s=
ubmissions-ietf125.md</a>, and the related past side meetings in the netwo=
rk management domain, I see that the lifecycle on research and industry ad=
option of model and data driven network management becomes=0A accelerated =
and therefore research and industry adoption comes more and more closer to=
gether. Looking at the bluesheets of IETF 125, I see that we had 107 parti=
cipants for NMRG and 115 for NMOP and 36 participants were attending both =
NMRG and NMOP.<o:p></o:p></span></p>=0A<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"mar=
gin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;"><span lang=3D"=
EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans=
-serif;color:#0E2841"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>=0A<p class=3D"MsoNormal=
" style=3D"margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;">=
<span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet=
MS",sans-serif;color:#0E2841">Or in other words, I personally believ=
e that both working groups have a lot in common but also a also few things=
which makes them very unique=0A and interesting to facilitate such a disc=
ussion.<o:p></o:p></span></p>=0A<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin: 0i=
n; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;"><span lang=3D"EN-US" =
style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif;=
color:#0E2841"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>=0A<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=
=3D"margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;"><span l=
ang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS&quo=
t;,sans-serif;color:#0E2841">I might be wrong and therefore would like to =
get some feedback from both mailing lists first:<o:p></o:p></span></p>=0A<=
p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: =
Aptos, sans-serif;"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-fa=
mily:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif;color:#0E2841"><o:p> </o:p><=
/span></p>=0A<ul style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0in;" type=3D"di=
sc">=0A<li class=3D"MsoListParagraph" style=3D"color: rgb(14, 40, 65); mar=
gin: 0in 0in 0in 0.5in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;">=
=0A<span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuc=
het MS",sans-serif">Would you agree that the lifecycle on research an=
d industry adoption of model and data driven network management becomes ac=
celerated and therefore research and industry adoption=0A comes more and m=
ore closer together?<o:p></o:p></span></li></ul>=0A<p class=3D"MsoNormal" =
style=3D"margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;"><s=
pan lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet M=
S",sans-serif;color:#0E2841"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>=0A<ul style=
=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0in;" type=3D"disc">=0A<li class=3D"Ms=
oListParagraph" style=3D"color: rgb(14, 40, 65); margin: 0in 0in 0in 0.5in=
; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;">=0A<span lang=3D"EN-US=
" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-seri=
f">Is there an interest at the NMRG and NMOP communities to have an exchan=
ge on currently adopted and future proposed work to identify synergies and=
common interests in both working=0A groups and discuss how they could be =
addressed better?<o:p></o:p></span></li></ul>=0A<p class=3D"MsoNormal" sty=
le=3D"margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;"><span=
lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS&q=
uot;,sans-serif;color:#0E2841"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>=0A<ul style=3D=
"margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0in;" type=3D"disc">=0A<li class=3D"MsoLi=
stParagraph" style=3D"color: rgb(14, 40, 65); margin: 0in 0in 0in 0.5in; f=
ont-size: 11pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;">=0A<span lang=3D"EN-US" s=
tyle=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif">=
Do you have a particular topic, set of documents or interest already in mi=
nd?<o:p></o:p></span></li></ul>=0A<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin: =
0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;"><span lang=3D"EN-US=
" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-seri=
f;color:#0E2841"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>=0A<p class=3D"MsoNormal" sty=
le=3D"margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;"><span=
lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS&q=
uot;,sans-serif;color:#0E2841">Best wishes<o:p></o:p></span></p>=0A<p clas=
s=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Aptos,=
sans-serif;"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&=
quot;Trebuchet MS",sans-serif;color:#0E2841">Thomas<o:p></o:p></span>=
</p>=0A<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-=
family: Aptos, sans-serif;"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt=
;font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif;color:#0E2841"><o:p> =
;</o:p></span></p>=0A<div>=0A<div style=3D"border:none;border-top:solid #E=
1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in">=0A<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"=
margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;"><b><span la=
ng=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;mso-ligat=
ures:none;mso-fareast-language:DE-CH">From:</span></b><span lang=3D"EN-US"=
style=3D"font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;mso-ligatures:none;ms=
o-fareast-language:DE-CH">=0A<a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]=
m" style=3D"color: rgb(70, 120, 134); text-decoration: underline;">mohamed=
[email protected]</a> <<a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]=
om" style=3D"color: rgb(70, 120, 134); text-decoration: underline;">mohame=
[email protected]</a>>=0A<br>=0A<b>Sent:</b> Monday, May 4, 2026 1=
0:21 AM<br>=0A<b>To:</b> Graf Thomas, SCS-INI-NET-VNC-E2E <<a href=3D"m=
ailto:[email protected]" style=3D"color: rgb(70, 120, 134); text-de=
coration: underline;">[email protected]</a>>;=0A<a href=3D"mailt=
o:[email protected]" style=3D"color: rgb(70, 120, 134); text-decoration=
: underline;">[email protected]</a>; Nmop-chairs <<a href=3D"mailto:=
[email protected]" style=3D"color: rgb(70, 120, 134); text-decoration: =
underline;">[email protected]</a>><br>=0A<b>Cc:</b> ops-ads <<a h=
ref=3D"mailto:[email protected]" style=3D"color: rgb(70, 120, 134); text-de=
coration: underline;">[email protected]</a>>; Dirk KUTSCHER <<a href=
=3D"mailto:[email protected]" style=3D"color: rgb(70, 120, 134); text-dec=
oration: underline;">[email protected]</a>><br>=0A<b>Subject:</b> [OPS=
AREA@IETF126] IRTF/IETF OPS Transfer: Status & Exploring Collaboration=
Opportunities<o:p></o:p></span></p>=0A</div>=0A</div>=0A<p class=3D"MsoNo=
rmal" style=3D"margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-seri=
f;"><span lang=3D"EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>=0A<table class=3D"Ms=
oNormalTable" border=3D"0" cellspacing=3D"0" cellpadding=3D"0" align=3D"le=
ft" width=3D"100%" style=3D"width:100.0%">=0A<tbody>=0A<tr>=0A<td style=3D=
"background:#CF4A0C;padding:5.0pt 2.0pt 5.0pt 2.0pt"></td>=0A<td width=3D"=
100%" style=3D"width:100.0%;background:#FFF8E5;padding:5.0pt 4.0pt 5.0pt 1=
2.0pt">=0A<div>=0A<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin: 0in; font-size: =
11pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;">=0A<b><span style=3D"font-size:12.0=
pt;color:#222222;mso-ligatures:none;mso-fareast-language:DE-CH">Be aware:<=
/span></b><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;color:#222222;mso-ligatures:none=
;mso-fareast-language:DE-CH"> This is an external email.<o:p></o:p></span>=
</p>=0A</div>=0A</td>=0A</tr>=0A</tbody>=0A</table>=0A<p class=3D"MsoNorma=
l" style=3D"margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;"=
><span lang=3D"FR" style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;mso-ligatures:none;mso-fareas=
t-language:DE-CH"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>=0A<div>=0A<p class=3D"MsoNo=
rmal" style=3D"margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-seri=
f;"><span lang=3D"FR" style=3D"font-family:"Courier New"">Hi all=
, <o:p>=0A</o:p></span></p>=0A<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin: 0in;=
font-size: 11pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;"><span lang=3D"FR" style=
=3D"font-family:"Courier New""><o:p> </o:p></span></p>=0A<p=
class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: A=
ptos, sans-serif;"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-family:"Courier=
New"">I had several discussions recently with many IETF participants=
about the relationship between some work done in the IRTF and IETF. Speci=
fically, I heard several questions about the current=0A mode of operation =
between NMRG and OPS and whether/how activity transfer is happening betwee=
n the two communities. I do see a value in bringing some of these items fr=
om hallway discussion to our formal meetings :-)<o:p></o:p></span></p>=0A<=
p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: =
Aptos, sans-serif;"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-family:"Courie=
r New""><o:p> </o:p></span></p>=0A<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=
=3D"margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;"><span l=
ang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-family:"Courier New"">This can be th=
e opportunity to explore between collaboration between the communities, an=
d not rely only on the leadership level. See, for example, the following e=
xcerpt form the NMRG=0A Charter:<o:p></o:p></span></p>=0A<p class=3D"MsoNo=
rmal" style=3D"margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-seri=
f;"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-family:"Courier New""><o:=
p> </o:p></span></p>=0A<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin: 0in; f=
ont-size: 11pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;"><span lang=3D"EN-US" styl=
e=3D"font-family:"Courier New""> =E2=80=9CThe IETF O=
perations and Management Area Directors are members of the NMRG<br>=0A&nbs=
p; mailing list and invited to NMRG meetings in order to ensure free=
flow of<br>=0A information in both directions, and to avoid d=
uplication of work with the<br>=0A various IETF working groups=
..=E2=80=9D<o:p></o:p></span></p>=0A<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin:=
0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;"><span lang=3D"EN-U=
S" style=3D"font-family:"Courier New""><o:p> </o:p></span><=
/p>=0A<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-f=
amily: Aptos, sans-serif;"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-family:"=
;Courier New"">There are several WG/RG pairs that may be considered f=
or collaboration (NMRG/NMOP, MAPRG/IPPM, etc.) but I think that it would b=
e better to scope the discussion to a specific area. I=0A suggest to focus=
this time on NMRG/NMOP.<o:p></o:p></span></p>=0A<p class=3D"MsoNormal" st=
yle=3D"margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;"><spa=
n lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-family:"Courier New""><o:p> =
</o:p></span></p>=0A<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin: 0in; font-size=
: 11pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"fon=
t-family:"Courier New"">Thomas kindly accepted to drive a discus=
sion on this topic in the IETF#126 OPSAREA Session with some proposals to =
bridge both communities. Thomas is also willing to collect feedback and=0A=
coordinate between the NMRG/NMOP Chairs, in particular.<o:p></o:p></span>=
</p>=0A<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-=
family: Aptos, sans-serif;"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-family:&quo=
t;Courier New""><o:p> </o:p></span></p>=0A<p class=3D"MsoNormal"=
style=3D"margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;"><=
span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-family:"Courier New"">@NMOP/@N=
MRG Chairs: Would you be interested/willing to work with Thomas to consoli=
date some discussion material? Thoughts and suggestions are welcome.<o:p><=
/o:p></span></p>=0A<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin: 0in; font-size:=
11pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font=
-family:"Courier New""><o:p> </o:p></span></p>=0A<p class=
=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Aptos, =
sans-serif;"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-family:"Courier New&q=
uot;">Thank you.<o:p></o:p></span></p>=0A<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"m=
argin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;"><span lang=
=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-family:"Courier New""><o:p> </o:p>=
</span></p>=0A<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt=
; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-fami=
ly:"Courier New"">Cheers,<o:p></o:p></span></p>=0A<p class=3D"Ms=
oNormal" style=3D"margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-s=
erif;"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-family:"Courier New"">=
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ize: 10pt; font-family: "Courier New";"><span lang=3D"FR">______=
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