[OPS-AREA]Re: Proposals for ICMP Extensions: Operational M otivations & Rationale
"Bonica, Ron" <[email protected]> Fri, 24 Jul 2026 19:52:31 +0000
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--===============8314678024563901409== Content-Language: en-US Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_000_DM4PR84MB2310675C4501108F124A179EF4CF2DM4PR84MB2310NAMP_" --_000_DM4PR84MB2310675C4501108F124A179EF4CF2DM4PR84MB2310NAMP_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Please do create a repo and tell us how to access it. ________________________________ From: Joe Clarke (jclarke) <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, July 24, 2026 2:50 PM To: [email protected] <[email protected]>; mohamed.boucadair@oran= ge.com <[email protected]>; Operations and Management Area Worki= ng Group Discussion List <[email protected]>; [email protected] <ops-area@iet= f.org>; Internet Area <[email protected]>; Bonica, Ron <[email protected]= om> Cc: Jen Linkova <[email protected]>; [email protected] <[email protected]= > Subject: Re: Proposals for ICMP Extensions: Operational Motivations & Ratio= nale If we=92re going to do this in opsawg, I can create a repo for us in our or= g and push the current text there. Just throwing this in as a thought as i IIRC did not note this at the mic; I coarsely see two groups in here; What I think might be a good thing is clarifying the creation of state (specific to ICMP/ICMPv6) via ICMP/ICMPv6 messages and/or state dependence. That will entail some security considerations tied to that. [JMC] Not just state. Some of those drafts expose access to management dat= a that has traditionally been protected behind some form of credential. Ex= posing it to =93anyone=94 with no real accountability definitely raises the= ir own security considerations. Joe --_000_DM4PR84MB2310675C4501108F124A179EF4CF2DM4PR84MB2310NAMP_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <html> <head> <meta http-equiv=3D"Content-Type" content=3D"text/html; charset=3DWindows-1= 252"> <style type=3D"text/css" style=3D"display:none;"> P {margin-top:0;margin-bo= ttom:0;} </style> </head> <body dir=3D"ltr"> <div style=3D"font-family: Aptos, Aptos_EmbeddedFont, Aptos_MSFontService, = Calibri, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);" clas= s=3D"elementToProof"> Please do create a repo and tell us how to access it.</div> <div id=3D"appendonsend"></div> <hr style=3D"display:inline-block;width:98%" tabindex=3D"-1"> <div id=3D"divRplyFwdMsg" dir=3D"ltr"><font face=3D"Calibri, sans-serif" st= yle=3D"font-size:11pt" color=3D"#000000"><b>From:</b> Joe Clarke (jclarke) = <[email protected]><br> <b>Sent:</b> Friday, July 24, 2026 2:50 PM<br> <b>To:</b> [email protected] <[email protected]>; mohamed.b= [email protected] <[email protected]>; Operations and Ma= nagement Area Working Group Discussion List <[email protected]>; ops-ar= [email protected] <[email protected]>; Internet Area <[email protected]&= gt;; Bonica, Ron <[email protected]><br> <b>Cc:</b> Jen Linkova <[email protected]>; [email protected] <ay= [email protected]><br> <b>Subject:</b> Re: Proposals for ICMP Extensions: Operational Motivations = & Rationale</font> <div> </div> </div> <div> <div style=3D"direction:ltr; font-family:Aptos,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif; = font-size:12pt; color:rgb(0,0,0)"> If we=92re going to do this in opsawg, I can create a repo for us in our or= g and push the current text there.<span style=3D"font-size:11pt"><br> <br> Just throwing this in as a thought as i IIRC did not note this at the<br> mic; I coarsely see two groups in here; What I think might be a good<br> thing is clarifying the creation of state (specific to ICMP/ICMPv6) via<br> ICMP/ICMPv6 messages and/or state dependence. That will entail some<br> security considerations tied to that.</span></div> <div style=3D"direction:ltr; font-family:Aptos,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif; = font-size:11pt; color:rgb(0,0,0)"> <br> </div> <div style=3D"direction:ltr"><span style=3D"font-size:11pt">[JMC] Not just = state. Some of those drafts expose access to management data that has= traditionally been protected behind some form of credential. Exposin= g it to </span><span style=3D"font-size:14.666667px">=93</span><span style=3D"font-= size:11pt">anyone</span><span style=3D"font-size:14.666667px">=94</span><sp= an style=3D"font-size:11pt"> with no real accountability definitely ra= ises their own security considerations.</span></div> <div style=3D"direction:ltr; font-size:14.666667px"><br> </div> <div style=3D"direction:ltr"><span style=3D"font-size:14.666667px">Joe<br> </span><br> <br> </div> </div> </body> </html> --_000_DM4PR84MB2310675C4501108F124A179EF4CF2DM4PR84MB2310NAMP_-- --===============8314678024563901409== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 Content-Disposition: inline X19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX18KT1BTLUFSRUEg bWFpbGluZyBsaXN0IC0tIG9wcy1hcmVhQGlldGYub3JnClRvIHVuc3Vic2NyaWJlIHNlbmQgYW4g ZW1haWwgdG8gb3BzLWFyZWEtbGVhdmVAaWV0Zi5vcmcK --===============8314678024563901409==--