Re: [OPS-AREA] Heads up - Plea for allocating a /8 to ISPs

Tore Anderson <[email protected]>
Newsgroups gmane.ietf.v6ops,gmane.ietf.ops
Organization Redpill Linpro AS
Message-ID <[email protected]>
* Christopher LILJENSTOLPE

> By engine, I meant the Internet, not v4 the way we do it today. 
> Please, PLEASE try and flush the cache state that says the authors
> do not want to do v6.

Christopher,

I have never said, nor believed, that the you or any of the other
authors do not want or intend to do IPv6.

What I am saying is that whether you and the other authors in sum
allocate, say, a /6 for your own private interim NAT444 purposes,
instead of the shared /10, it's not going to make much of a difference
to either IPv4 depletion or IPv6 deployment.  It seems to me that the
effort you're putting into getting the shared /10 is way out of
proportion compared to the minimal benefits it'd bring.

>> There's nobody stopping you from getting your /10 now and then 
>> inviting the rest of the NAT444 operators to squat on it instead
>> of getting their own.  The end result would be the same, but you
>> won't have to risk not getting the necessary IETF consensus by the
>> time IANA runs out.
> 
> And why should APNIC bear the "tax" for everyone else?

Because that would be in accordance with the already established
policies for distribution of IPv4 addresses.  If you need the addresses,
go ask for them.  That's what everyone has been doing for years and have
agreed upon as being the fair way to do it.  I must say I find it quite
puzzling that you're so insistent on not doing so this time, too.

Besides, assuming you got your IANA /10, and if Geoff Huston's
projections are correct, APNIC would end up paying the «tax» anyway as
they looks set to be the one to make the last allocation from IANA which
would then be an incomplete /8.  Or perhaps AfriNIC, if instead Stephan
Lagerholm turns out to be correct?  Or any of the other three RIRs, who
knows?  When we're out of addresses it won't be «fair» anyway so this
«tax» concern is meaningless, in my opinion.

Best regards,
-- 
Tore Anderson
Redpill Linpro AS - http://www.redpill-linpro.com/
Tel: +47 21 54 41 27
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