RE: removing the milestones

"Glen Zorn \(gwz\)" <[email protected]>
Newsgroups gmane.ietf.pppext
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James Carlson <mailto:[email protected]> wrote:

...

> 
> I'm not dismissing the standards process as "irrelevant."  

That's nice to hear.

> Those are
> your words, not mine. 

Note that I wrote "You seem to be saying..."; less an attribution of
meaning than a somewhat oblique query thereof.

> 
> What I did say was that it wasn't clear whether advancing the
> documents (after so many years has passed) has any substantial
value
> for anyone consuming the documents.  I don't know that it does. 

Just to be fair, there seems to be a _very_ thin line between
lacking "substantial value" and irrelevance.

> 
>> This is particularly interesting (and somewhat distressing) since
>> Draft Standard is, I believe, the only level that requires
evidence
>> of interoperability...
> 
> True.  And, as I said before, someone has to speak up to take
> ownership of a document of interest, or it's just going to stay at
> that maturity level forever.  

OK, what work needs to be done on the documents (aside from the MIBs
which probably need editing to comply w/the new boilerplate, etc.)?

> 
> In the meantime, it's just silly for us to have milestones listed
> that expired five years ago.  

True.

> I'd like to put down new dates for
> those, but if there's nobody working on them, then there's no
> plausible date that I can put on them.   

Hope this helps,

~gwz

Why is it that most of the world's problems can't be solved by
simply
  listening to John Coltrane? -- Henry Gabriel


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