Re: Presentation on EPP present and future

James Gould <[email protected]>
Newsgroups gmane.ietf.provreg
Message-ID <C848F1E4.3A168%[email protected]>
I agree with Ulrich.

I believe that it¹s impossible for all of the registries to agree on a
single business model and a single way of doing things.  Compromise had to
be made even with the standard mappings (hostObj/hostAttr, thick/thin, etc.)
with the use of optional features, so over time additional business ideas
will naturally result in new extensions.  It is the technologist¹s
responsibility to try to meet the business needs without causing interface
issues like updating the base mappings themselves, without creating new
mappings for the same mapping objects, and without creating required
extensions except for specific cases.  Every registry has had it¹s own
unique set of requirements.  The ability of EPP to define new mappings is
extremely useful and I don¹t believe is at issue.  We could look to create
standard mappings for Registry objects like Registrar, User, Registrar
Contact, and billing if needed.  It¹s the extensions made to the standard
mappings that is of most interest for combining and standardization.   I¹m
not a fan of updating the base mappings unless there is a compelling reason
to do so, but instead focus on the set of extensions that have been created
for consolidation. 

As stated in the EPP BOF extensions are not evil but a natural result of
using EPP for different business models.  There is no way that we¹re all
going to agree on a single business model, but it would be a useful exercise
to work on some standard set of extensions.

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From: Ulrich Wisser <[email protected]>
Date: Thu, 24 Jun 2010 03:30:17 -0400
To: EPP Provreg <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [ietf-provreg] Presentation on EPP present and future

Hello,

EPP is in fact *very* extensible. The problem (in my opinion) is that
most registry are really new to EPP when they start to develop an EPP
server. At that point it is very easy to get lost in an extension
frenzy. And once the whole server is build around the new schema it
almost impossible to revert to standard schema.

Then there is the part that EPP does not support business objects. There
are no accounts, no registrar objects, no billing data, ...

EPP has no way of specifying registry rules, e.g. max. number of ns per
domain, ...

The nice thing about all the extensions in the wild is, that we are now
seeing real world business needs for EPP. We could try to filter out a
common set of extensions needs and create one or more new standard
extensions.

I can see a bunch of work for a WG here.

/Ulrich


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