Re: Registry lock - two-factor or intervention

Michele Neylon - Blacknight <[email protected]> Thu, 19 Sep 2013 09:22:36 +0000
Newsgroups gmane.ietf.provreg
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On 19 Sep 2013, at 09:35, Antoin Verschuren <[email protected]> wrote:

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> Op 19-09-13 01:32, Michele Neylon - Blacknight schreef:
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>> The registry has no contractual relationship with the registrant
>> 
>> The registrant has a contractual relationship with the registrar
>> 
>> The registrar has a contractual relationship with the registry
> 
> Michele,
> 
> This is not the general case, so your statement is biased.

So is your reaction
:)



> In .nl, there is a contractual relationship between registrant and
> registry.


Yes, but there is normally no contractual relationship between the registry and a registrant in gTLDs, which is what I was thinking about.

> The role of the registrar is to offload administrative burden of the
> registry, the registrar acts as an administrative agent for the
> registrant.

Wow! That's actually incredibly offensive to registrars.

So any time there are *any* issues with *any* domains of any kind I can just send all the registrants, users and $random 3rd parties directly to the registry?

Great.

I'll be able to lay off most of my staff

Regards

Michele


> But technically there is always the parent-child
> relationship between registry and registrar in the form of a DNS
> delegation, so legally (at least in our jurisdiction) it cannot be
> denied that a registry is offering a service to a registrant.
> 
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