Re: Confusing UAs considered harmful (was *Reply-to* considered harmful)

Keith Moore <[email protected]>
Newsgroups gmane.ietf.rfc822
Message-ID <[email protected]>
> On Mon June 6 2005 14:58, Keith Moore wrote:
> 
> > Rather, the whole assumption that the author of a message should be able to
> > change the behavior of a recipient's user agent is very much in doubt.
> 
> That's emphatically NOT the assumption behind the Reply-To field semantics.
> "suggestion" != "change the behavior"

It was the assumption in RFC 822, according to both my reading of that
document and my understanding of statements made by the editor of that
document. 2822 (correctly IMHO) changes the semantics to "suggestion".  

However, most MUA implementations still treat Reply-to more as an
"indication" of where responses are to be sent than as a "suggestion" -
in the sense that they use Reply-To to change the default behavior of a
Reply command, they don't make it clear to the recipient that the
default behavior is being changed, and they don't allow recipients to
easily choose other behaviors.

> > The only way to make Reply work better is to improve the user interfaces
> > of mail user agents so that recipients of messages are more easily able to 
> > explicitly choose where their replies go.
> 
> Agreed.  Maybe UAs, when instructed to respond, should start with "Where
> do you want your message to go today?" :-)
> 
> > To the [extent?] new fields can help 
> > this process, they can only do so by providing more information to a recipient
> > to inform that choice.
> 
> Maybe.  Sometimes too much information can make matters worse.  Ultimately
> a respondent needs to give some thought to the matter, and neither a UA
> nor a new header field is a substitute for thought.

Entirely agree.   And if we're going to have a new field for suggesting where
replies go, it needs to be designed in such a way that it makes a useful
suggestion for the recipient, rather than in such a way that recipient UAs 
are expected to process it automatically without human input.

Keith
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