Re: Mailing lists as 2822-Sender

Hector Santos <[email protected]>
Newsgroups gmane.ietf.dkim,gmane.ietf.rfc822
Organization Santronics Software, Inc.
Message-ID <[email protected]>
Frank Ellermann wrote:
> Scott Kitterman wrote on the DKIM list:
> 
>> On Thursday 29 November 2007 06:32, Charles Lindsey wrote:
>>> Note that a mailng list expander is supposed to insert a Sender.
>  
>> IIRC it's a SHOULD and not a MUST, so one really can't rely on it.
> 
> Can you (Charles + Scott, or anybody else who knows it) please
> check this ?  I thought that mailing lists are NOT supposed to
> insert Sender (or Resent-*) header fields unless they wish to 
> participate in PRA checks (RFC 4406).

Sender predates PRA so how can PRA regulate it?

> Example:  Charles + Scott as authors (2822-From) post an answer
> to a mailing list (with 2822-Sender Scott), what's the mailing
> list software supposed to do if it doesn't support a 4406 PRA ?
> 
>  Frank (cc rfc822, maybe it's not exactly a DKIM question)

Unless I am mis-understanding here, if so, I apologize for jumping in ....

No,  for a mailing list, Sender: is generally the mailing list's "Pseudo 
Admin Agent",  like for this list IETF-DKIM message:

     Sender: [email protected]

or like in our setup in our support lists:

     Sender: [email protected]

So Scott should not be in the Sender: field.

The key thing is that it should never be part of a HUMAN reply process, 
and as far I recall in our various MUA testing, none include it in a 
"Reply To All" concept.  IMO, this is one reason why the PRA algorithm 
is flawed.

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Hector Santos, CTO
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