Re: Mailing lists - assumptions

Theodore Ts'o <[email protected]> Fri, 18 Apr 2014 17:08:39 -0400
Newsgroups gmane.ietf.rfc822
Message-ID <[email protected]>
On Fri, Apr 18, 2014 at 09:04:06PM +0000, MH Michael Hammer (5304) wrote:
> 
> There is a distinct difference between the two approaches. If an
> organization I support, whether they do it knowingly or because the
> person or organization that manages their mailing lists decides to
> make such a decision (without advising management) to send me a
> nasty email intended to coerce me to do anything (doesn't have to be
> just about switching mailbox providers), of course I am going to
> withdraw support. I would fully expect others to feel along the
> lines I do. To be blunt, people (end users) don't particularly care
> about your impossible situation as a list administrator. It is your
> job to figure out the least intrusive way of dealing with the
> situation and of course, to communicate with the impacted users
> politely and where possible providing them options. This is not
> specific to the Yahoo DMARC implementation issue, that is the real
> world. You are focused on solving your problem (and crusade) and not
> necessarily theirs.

All of the short-term workarounds will negatively impact the yahoo.com
user somewhat.  (It is because of the negative impact that I think
it's best if the workaround is deployed only if the recipient has a
DMARC p=reject policy, as opposed to being inflicted on all of the
mailing list recipients.)

If they don't like that negative impact, the only thing thing I can
tell them is to use another e-mail provider, or to lobby yahoo.com to
chainge their policies.  If that happens to negatively impact
yahoo.com, I can't say that I would be sorry.

Regards,

						- Ted

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