[saag] 回复: Re: Re: [EXT] Interests o n Initiating the standardization work related to "Zero Trust" ?

Hi Richard,
Thanks for the guidance. We agree with your considerations and we had narrow the scope​ to focus on dynamic security deployment​ in cloud-network​ environments.

We will use the published materials as a starting point to assess the applicability of existing protocols and, where justified, explore the feasibility and boundaries of new protocols such as NHP.

Best Regards

Xuan Si
China Telecom




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发件人： 【外部账号】Richard Barnes
发送时间： 2025-12-23 22:37
收件人： Harry Halpin
抄送： Blumenthal, Uri - 0553 - MITLL; Aijun Wang; [email protected]; Benfeng Chen; Erik Johnson; [email protected]; [email protected]; Hillary Baron; Aijun Wang
主题： Re: [saag] Re: [EXT] Interests on Initiating the standardization work related to "Zero Trust"?
Clearing up marketing-tainted terminology is not a good use of the IETF.  At this point "Zero Trust" is largely unrecoverable.

And in any case, all Zero Trust has ever meant AFAICT is for corporate networks to finally embrace things that have been standard in IETF protocols for a long time: Authorization and access control, ubiquitous encryption, etc.

If there's some protocol work to do here, let's do it.  But from the documents posted up-thread, this seems like territory that is already well-covered by existing standards.

--Richard

On Tue, Dec 23, 2025 at 8:11 AM Harry Halpin <[email protected]> wrote:
We at Nym would support the work. From a corporate perspective, the term "zero-trust" is a mess and some clear standards are in order.

  yours,
   harry



On Tue, Dec 16, 2025 at 10:54 PM Blumenthal, Uri - 0553 - MITLL <[email protected]> wrote:
I agree that bringing this discussion to IETF Sec Area and creating a mailing list (and, probably, a WG) would be beneficial.

Thanks!
--
V/R,
Uri
From: Aijun Wang <[email protected]>
Date: Tuesday, December 16, 2025 at 22:51
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Cc: 'Benfeng Chen' <[email protected]>, 'Erik Johnson' <[email protected]>, Blumenthal, Uri - 0553 - MITLL <[email protected]>, [email protected] <[email protected]>, [email protected] <[email protected]>, 'Hillary Baron' <[email protected]>, 'Aijun Wang' <[email protected]>
Subject: [EXT] Interests on Initiating the standardization work related to "Zero Trust"?

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Hi, All:
 
As someone may be aware, that we have held two side meetings regards to the topics about “zero trust” in the past IETF 123 and 124 meetings
In these side meetings, we discussed mainly the problem statements regarding to the “zero trust” and some potential solutions.
 
Now, we want to seek more feedbacks, or interests on this topic, and plan to organize another side meeting, or if possible, one non-wg forming BoF in the coming IETF 125 meetings.
 
Then, if you have interests on this topic, and would like to contribute your thoughts, please feel free to express your supports.
If you have any question on this direction, you can comment also along this threads.
 
We will ask our ADs to build one dedicated mail list for further/deeper discussions, if there are enough interests on this topic.(After the coming Christmas Holiday)
 
Now, we are collaborate with the “Zero Trust” working group (Zero Trust Working Group | CSA - Cloud Security Alliance) in CSA to forward this activities.
 
Best Regards
 
Aijun Wang
China Telecom
 
 
 
 
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