[saag] Re: draft-paulwh-crypto-components-02 ("one of th e reasons")

Eric Rescorla <[email protected]>
Newsgroups gmane.ietf.saag
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On Wed, Feb 19, 2025 at 12:04 PM Paul Wouters <[email protected]> wrote:

>
> On Wed, Feb 19, 2025 at 2:58 PM Eric Rescorla <[email protected]> wrote:
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>>
>> On Wed, Feb 19, 2025 at 11:52 AM Paul Wouters <paul.wouters=
>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, Feb 19, 2025 at 2:32 PM Salz, Rich <rsalz=
>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>    - One of the reasons I wanted to get such a draft out that I can
>>>>    point to, is precisely because
>>>>
>>>> Security ADs are regularly approached (in private) with requests to AD
>>>> sponsor some crypto algorithm.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> That is a reasonable reason, but this draft doesn’t seem to address
>>>> it.  Are you thinking that it does so, albeit indirectly, by pointing out
>>>> the many criteria that need to be considered?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> How does this draft help you say no?  Or is the intent that you can say
>>>> “please address the points here and then I’ll consider it”
>>>>
>>>
>>> As ADs (current and future) have the freedom to accept any draft for AD
>>> sponsoring, there is no normative text that could be used
>>> to restrict that.
>>>
>>
>> I'm not sure this is true.
>>
>
> They may accept any draft for AD sponsoring. The publication path may
> still show that they made a mistake and that publication is not allowed for
> a variety of reasons, amongst them "there is no consensus for this".
>
>
> Suppose we had a Standards Track RFC which stated that all cryptographic
>> algorithm specifications had to come with source code; the AD would not
>> have freedom to AD sponsor one without source code without also updating
>> that RFC. Or do you think I'm wrong about the process?
>>
>
> They could sponsor the draft, but obvious publication would justifyingly
> fail. One hopes
> the AD realizes that before agreeing to AD Sponsor.
>

Thanks. I agree with this description of the process.

-Ekr

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