[saag] Re: Relative OIDs are the simpler form of OID (Re : A simpler form of OID)

Phillip Hallam-Baker <[email protected]>
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On Mon, Sep 29, 2025 at 1:54 PM Salz, Rich <[email protected]> wrote:

>
>    - Do we really have to argue over that to agree on my original point
>    that the original motivation for layering every application protocol over
>    HTTP (because it is the only thing allowed through the firewalls) has been
>    rendered obsolete because QUIC with cheap TLS certs achieves the same goal?
>
>
> If that was your original point, I missed it.
>

It is there in the thread.



> But QUIC connectivity, as measured by HTTP3 deployment and seems to be
> comparable to IPv6 deployment.
>

I don't see IPv6 as being relevant. Deployment of IPv6 is much harder for a
whole host of reasons.

Seems likely to me that new Web Services are going to shift from JSON over
HTTPS to JSON with some framing over QUIC even faster than JSON
displaced XML. Can't see why I would start with anything else for new work.
QUIC is just a much more satisfactory approach.

All that HTTP gives me when building a Web Service is firewall bypass,
transaction framing and the ability to share a large number of services off
one port and it limits me to simple request/response patterns. With QUIC I
can easily set up a 'subscribe to stream' pattern.

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