coments on draft-ietf-sacred-protocol-bss-00
Lawrence Greenfield <[email protected]> Tue, 11 Dec 2001 17:29:37 -0700
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I was reading over the latest draft last night (draft-ietf-sacred-protocol-bss-00.txt) and I have a few questions on things that confused me. Section 2.1.2 introduces the "Create Account" operation. It doesn't have any mention of a server wishing to only store credentials for authorized users or any way that a server might wish to authenticate a user before creating an account for them. (For instance, a server might require authentication using a different SASL mechanism before allowing a user to create an account.) Or a site with a preexisting authentication infrastructure might already have SRP authenticators to use, and there's no need for a user to upload a new SRP authenticator. Thus, I think account management should be in a seperate section from the credential upload/download, and should be an optional part of the server to implement. A baseline SACRED client/server has to support upload/download (that's the point) but not necessarily the account management. Section 2.2: authorization identity must equal authentication identity. Why is there this restriction? A client should be able to attempt to authorize as some other user; it's a server's site policy that determines whether or not this is allowed. The easiest site policy is to always disallow proxying. (Also, SASL allows a client to send the empty authorization string to "derive authorization from authentication credentials".) Section 2.2: The mandatory to implement TLS cipher-suite appears to also be the the only one allowed: The mandatory-to-implement TLS cipher-suite for sacred is: TLS_RSA_WITH_3DES_EDE_CBC_SHA. This MUST be used for both sTLS and cTLS cases. Is this really what's intended? Shouldn't a client and a server be allowed to use other cipher suites, as long as both support TLS_RSA_WITH_3DES_EDE_CBC_SHA so interoperability is guaranteed? Section 2.3: why only one operation per connection? I suggest instead that clients MUST be prepared to deal with servers that close the connection after a single operation and servers SHOULD support multiple commands per connection. To simplify, you might want to say that commands MUST NOT be pipelined; the result of a previous command must be received before the next command can be sent. Section 4.3: There should probably be error codes for "over quota" or other administrator limitations. Appendix C: administrator operations: I don't see an overwhelming need to interoperate with administrative operations. If there's a desire for this, further messages can be defined later. Appendix C: mapping from SASL-SRP id to cTLS certificate: this is a very hard problem and is out of scope for SACRED. References: There are many normative references to works in progress such as XKMS and XBULK. Is the working group concerned that there might be a long wait for publication? Is xkms sufficiently far along? [Bob Morgan shares credit for any of the insightful comments above.] thanks, Larry