Re: [Ssh] Re: draft charter

This looks good to me. I dont think the history needs to be in the charter (=
although I do believe it would do well for the working group to be mindful o=
f it in the interest of future success).=20

Cheers,

Bob=20

> On Aug 16, 2024, at 03:10, Job Snijders <[email protected]=
> wrote:
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> =EF=BB=BFOn Fri, Aug 16, 2024 at 01:11:18AM +0300, Tero Kivinen wrote:
>> Stephen Farrell writes:
>>> At the time of writing this charter, it has been more than 17 years
>>> since the previous Secure Shell WG has been closed and its documents
>>> published. In the intervening years, current day implementations and
>>> RFCs have diverged, although the (now closed) curdle WG and various AD-
>>> sponsored RFCs have updated some of the SSH documentation, but in a
>>> somewhat sporadic manner as there was no WG chartered to generally
>>> maintain the SSH protocol documentation.
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>> I think this paragraph is not charter text, it is justification why
>> this group should be accepted, i.e., it is input to IESG, but not
>> input to the sshm working group in the future.
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>> I think we should replace this with actual description of the sshm
>> group, i.e. something like:
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>>    Sshm WGs purpose is to maintain SSH standard and to facilitate
>>    discussion of clarifications, improvements, and extensions to SSH
>>    protocol. The working group also serves as a focus point for other
>>    IETF Working Groups who use SSH in their own protocols.
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>> (copied from the IPsecME WG).
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>> IPsecME is quite simiar group but for the IPsec standard, and we do
>> recharter every now and then to include stuff that is not considered
>> as minor extensions of clarifications, but we also offer contact point
>> for other groups when they have something related to the IPsec that
>> they want to do. We do have other working groups using SSH protocol
>> and providing them a WG where they can come and discuss with experts
>> is good thing. The SSHM WG can then either decide to recharter and
>> include that work, or say its fine to do that, but do the work on your
>> WG, or that is really bad idea, do not go forward with that
>> document...
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> Maybe like this? https://github.com/DavidSchinazi/ssh-charter/pull/10/file=
s
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> Kind regards,
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> Job
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