Re: [Ssh] Re: draft charter

On Fri, Aug 16, 2024 at 01:11:18AM +0300, Tero Kivinen wrote:
> Stephen Farrell writes:
> > At the time of writing this charter, it has been more than 17 years
> > since the previous Secure Shell WG has been closed and its documents
> > published. In the intervening years, current day implementations and
> > RFCs have diverged, although the (now closed) curdle WG and various AD-
> > sponsored RFCs have updated some of the SSH documentation, but in a
> > somewhat sporadic manner as there was no WG chartered to generally
> > maintain the SSH protocol documentation.
> 
> I think this paragraph is not charter text, it is justification why
> this group should be accepted, i.e., it is input to IESG, but not
> input to the sshm working group in the future.
> 
> I think we should replace this with actual description of the sshm
> group, i.e. something like:
> 
>     Sshm WGs purpose is to maintain SSH standard and to facilitate
>     discussion of clarifications, improvements, and extensions to SSH
>     protocol. The working group also serves as a focus point for other
>     IETF Working Groups who use SSH in their own protocols.
> 
> (copied from the IPsecME WG).
> 
> IPsecME is quite simiar group but for the IPsec standard, and we do
> recharter every now and then to include stuff that is not considered
> as minor extensions of clarifications, but we also offer contact point
> for other groups when they have something related to the IPsec that
> they want to do. We do have other working groups using SSH protocol
> and providing them a WG where they can come and discuss with experts
> is good thing. The SSHM WG can then either decide to recharter and
> include that work, or say its fine to do that, but do the work on your
> WG, or that is really bad idea, do not go forward with that
> document...

Maybe like this? https://github.com/DavidSchinazi/ssh-charter/pull/10/files

Kind regards,

Job