Re: Should SIMPLE be rechartered, replaced, closed, or what?

16 okt 2012 kl. 23:12 skrev Mary Barnes <[email protected]>:

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> On Tue, Oct 16, 2012 at 2:01 PM, Ben Campbell <[email protected]> wrote:
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> On Oct 16, 2012, at 1:32 PM, Mary Barnes <[email protected]> wrote:
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>> > Your suggestion to discuss in DISPATCH and decide if and where we want to do that work makes sense, and is what DISPATCH is for. Presumably we can do that in Atlanta.
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>> I believe we're past the deadline for "official" DISPATCH agenda time for Atlanta. Mary, since you've already commented, do you have thoughts on that?
>> [MB] Yes - we are past the "official" DISPATCH dates.  Although, we have a light agenda since only one topic was requested before the deadline.  We may have some extra time and pending approval from the ADs, we could have an unofficial discussion after the "official" agenda to kick this off and pursue it formally in DISPATCH in March (with the discussion focusing on a proposed charter).  I'll ping the ADs and see what they think. [/MB] 
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> I also assume any such discussion would be dependent on someone stepping up to lead it, right? It seems like there are really at least two things under discussion on the list: SIMPLE/XMPP inter working, and whether work is needed on SIMPLE itself in order to facilitate interoperable implementations.
> [MB2] Yes, we would need people willing to lead the work as well as folks that are willing to contribute to and review documents.  Yes, there are two separate things.  My comments were on the former.  I think the latter is a different beast and needs more consideration before thinking that we have something to do or whether we should do something. [/MB2]

The SIMPLE-XMPP stuff are already in documents and there are contributions. I'm sure Peter has control of the process for that.

The SIMPLE-SIMPLE discussion is way too early to take anywhere in the IETF process. Let us use the SIMPLE mailing list for brainstorming and we'll see if we can agree on issues and possible solutions that can be discussed and possibly taken down in document form. At that point, it wlll hopefully be worth the energy and your backup to get a process started, in this wg or somewhere else.

IF there's time over for an unofficial discussion in Atlanta, it would be very interesting to hear the feedback from the dispatch wg. I don't think I can attend, so I guess I'll be participating over XMPP ironically.

THanks for your interest in this issue!

/O

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