Re: SIMPLE and OMA and 3Gpp and RCS and… (new subject)

(as individual)

On Nov 2, 2012, at 7:27 AM, I=F1aki Baz Castillo <[email protected]> wrote:

>> I'd love to see a better model endorsed by SIMPLE and then happily imple=
ment it. I think we do share this goal :-)
> =

> Sure we agree here. The key is: reusing SIMPLE/XCAP specs? or making
> something better from scratch (after learning from current SIMPLE/XMPP
> specs)?

Do you really believe nothing is salvageable? For example, would you jettis=
on all of the below?

-- Using SIP in the first place
-- SIP Events
-- RLS
-- SIP Message
-- MSRP
-- XCAP
-- etc

From the discussions so far, it sounds like most of the complaints are in t=
he area of reusing user lists between clients (e.g. contact lists, presence=
 rules, etc). Do people really hate the entire SIMPLE suite, or is it just =
an XCAP issue.

If the scope of the work is "start over from scratch", then it seems like w=
e would be better served starting with XMPP. I'd be very surprised if we co=
uld get support for creating "yet another presence and IM protocol".

We've been there before and it wasn't pretty.