Re: SIPit23 Survey Notes

Robert Sparks <[email protected]>
Newsgroups gmane.ietf.sip
Message-ID <[email protected]>
Hi Klaus -

The number represents endpoints that could actually emit a SIP message  
over IPSec at the event, not just ones that would work if IPSec  
happened to be the part of the transport. Its a measure of what the  
available implementations can be configured to do.

What it doesn't capture is the tight-coupling w/ the IPSec  
implementation that's required to support, for instance, Digest-AKA as  
used in IMS. I don't have that statistic from this event, but based on  
conversations and observations at past events, the number would be non- 
zero but small.

RjS


On Oct 24, 2008, at 10:51 AM, Klaus Darilion wrote:

>
>
> Thomas Froment schrieb:
>> Klaus Darilion wrote:
>>> Hi Robert!
>>>
>>> Robert Sparks schrieb:
>>>>
>>>> 19% supported SIP over IPSec
>>>
>>> What do you mean with "SIP over IPSec"? Every protocol runs over  
>>> IPSec as it is transparent to the application.
>> Well, SIP over IPsec is not really "transparent" to the SIP  
>> implementation:
>> when you want to send a request over an IPSec SA, you MUST be able  
>> to choose what is the source interface / source port and  
>> destination interface / destination port. This is not something so  
>> easy to implement at SIP transport level.
>
> I still do not get it. You can use IPSec without any additional  
> interfaces. If the IPSec implementation creates tunnel interfaces,  
> that may cause problems to SIP client. But then the problem is due  
> to tunnel interfaces (which can be anything, not only IPsec), not  
> due to IPSec.
>
> So if the SIP client does not care if the communication is secured  
> with IPsec, then every client should work over IPsec too.
>
> So the question is still - what means "supported SIP over IPSec"?
>
> Does it mean, "Is the SIP client capable of retrieving IPsec  
> information from the kernel to find out if a message will be sent  
> via IPsec secured way?
>
> regards
> klaus
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