Re: submission of a new I-D: "Dialog Event foR IdentityVErification"

Dean Willis <[email protected]>
Newsgroups gmane.ietf.sip
Message-ID <[email protected]>
On Oct 31, 2008, at 8:03 AM, Iñaki Baz Castillo wrote:

> 2008/10/31 Michael Procter <[email protected]>:
>
>>> Shall DERIVE be extended to support non-INVITE requests (e.g.  
>>> MESSAGE)
>>
>> I'm not sure it can.  RFC4235 is defined for INVITE-initiated dialog
>> usages only.  Yes, it could be extended, but I'm not convinced that  
>> is
>> necessarily the best way forward from here!
>
> Also note that MESSAGE doesn't establish a dialog, it just an
> independent transaction.

So we're asking "Is this from you" rather than "Did you initiate this  
dialog"?

It still seems like it might be a useful thing to know. Of course,  
this argues that 42325 may be the wrong basis.

Now, if we'd just made SIP work with opposing pairs of two-way  
transactions for everything, instead of singular two and three-way  
transactions, we could build confirmation options into everything. But  
we didn't.


Now, from a security perspective: Who's done the analysis on whether  
DERIVE introduces new attack opportunities?

For example, is there a DOS opportunity in using the home proxy as a  
message-exploder for source-forged SUBSCRIBE requests? Seems like thre  
might be a problem there . . .

--
Dean

_______________________________________________
Sip mailing list  https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/sip
This list is for NEW development of the core SIP Protocol
Use [email protected] for questions on current sip
Use [email protected] for new developments on the application of sip
lmpx.com only provides a reader for public news (NNTP) servers. It is not affiliated with the servers or forums shown here and is not responsible for the content of articles, which is written by their respective authors.