Re: [RFC 4235 & draft-kuthan-sip-derive] 481 "Call doesn't exist" for initial SUBSCRIBE ?

Dean Willis <[email protected]>
Newsgroups gmane.ietf.sip
Message-ID <[email protected]>
On Oct 31, 2008, at 12:54 PM, [email protected] wrote:

>   From: "=?UTF-8?Q?I=C3=B1aki_Baz_Castillo?=" <[email protected]>
>
>> In any case, for the purposes of DERIVE, none of that matters:
>> Any failure response to the SUBSCRIBE, or a NOTIFY that does not
>> list the call in question, results in call rejection.
>
>   But this behaviour would deny calls from devices not supporting
>   RFC4235 (receiving a SUBSCRIBE Event: dialog).AFAIK this draft says
>   that if the SUBSCRIBE is replied with 200 thenthe dialog exists and
>   identity verified, if 481 then the devicesupports RFC 4235 and it's
>   a suspicius call, and for any other failureroute it could mean that
>   the device doesn't support RFC 4235 or anykind of "protection" in
>   an intermediary proxy. In the last case, thereceptor of the INVITE
>   should choose to accept or deny the call, hecannot know if the
>   sender is really the From (or if he is not).

clearly one needs a Supported option-tag in the initial request to let  
the called party know that it might be reasonable to try to RRC using  
DERIVE.


--
Dean


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