Re: francois' comments and why RFC4474 not used in the field

Dean Willis <[email protected]>
Newsgroups gmane.ietf.sip
Message-ID <[email protected]>
On Apr 1, 2009, at 1:38 PM, Hadriel Kaplan wrote:

>
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf  
>> Of Dean
>> Willis
>> Sent: Wednesday, April 01, 2009 1:47 PM
>>
>> But the transit ISP should be routing the packets using their source
>> and destination IP addresses, not mucking about in the application
>> protocol. If some backbone ISP started putting in transparent HTTP
>> proxies that diverted Web traffic to alternate sites, we'd have a
>> "peasants with torches" scenario.
>
> That's not analogous and you know it, I think.  We're not talking  
> about a transparent inline IP-layer ISP mucking about in the  
> application layer.


> You're setting the SIP request URI host portion to your local  
> provider, not the far-end (because you almost never know the far-end  
> domain, and even if you did they won't accept your request  
> directly).  Your SIP request really does almost always reach the  
> local provider identified by that URI domain directly first.  Being  
> authoritative for that domain, they then route your request to  
> another domain, and so on, to reach an entity ultimately identified  
> by a phone number not a hostname.  For another, you know and I know  
> that web-based communication is not like phone communication.  In  
> many ways SIP is much closer to IM or Email than HTTP, except it  
> sometimes also costs money.


Dude! This is the INTERNET engineering task force. You want private  
circuit switched networks, see the ITU.

--
Dean

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