[TLS] Re: Draft THURDAY minutes are at
Eric Rescorla <[email protected]> Thu, 23 Jul 2026 02:54:33 -0700
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--===============0678165163919328384== Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="000000000000622ae60657444051" --000000000000622ae60657444051 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thu, Jul 23, 2026 at 2:49=E2=80=AFAM Nadim Kobeissi <[email protected]= ware> wrote: > Hi everyone, > > Thanks Rich for these meeting notes. > > I=E2=80=99m a bit alarmed at the following item in the notes: > > "Poll: Should chairs be more draconian in doing moderation? y/n/no-opinio= n > 65/2/7=E2=80=9D > > The Cambridge Dictionary defines =E2=80=9Cdraconian=E2=80=9D as =E2=80=9C= goes further than what is > right or necessary=E2=80=9D. Um=E2=80=A6 is =E2=80=9Cdraconian=E2=80=9D r= eally the term that was used by > the poll? > Yes. And were those really the results of the poll? > Plus or minus. It takes a while for the session to be posted, so I don't have the exact numbers to hand to verify, but I assume Rich transcribed this in real time. > Who proposed a poll where the chairs are being asked to =E2=80=9Cgo furth= er than > what is right or necessary=E2=80=9D, > The chairs proposed the poll with this wording. There was a bit of discussion about the wording, IIRC, and I think people largely understood this to mean that the chairs should be moderating more actively. > and who=E2=80=99s supporting this? > People's individual positions aren't recorded, but a number of people expressed support for more active moderation, including me. This is creepy to say the least. > I don't think so. I would suggest you watch the recording so you can see the discussion in context. -Ekr --000000000000622ae60657444051 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <div dir=3D"ltr"><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote g= mail_quote_container"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Thu, Jul 23,= 2026 at 2:49=E2=80=AFAM Nadim Kobeissi <[email protected]> wro= te:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px = 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div>Hi ever= yone,<div><br></div><div>Thanks Rich for these meeting notes.</div><div><br= ></div><div>I=E2=80=99m a bit alarmed at the following item in the notes:</= div><div><br></div><div>"Poll: Should chairs be more draconian in doin= g moderation? y/n/no-opinion 65/2/7=E2=80=9D</div><div><br></div><div>The C= ambridge Dictionary defines =E2=80=9Cdraconian=E2=80=9D as =E2=80=9Cgoes fu= rther than what is right or necessary=E2=80=9D. Um=E2=80=A6 is =E2=80=9Cdra= conian=E2=80=9D really the term that was used by the poll? </div></div></bl= ockquote><div><br></div><div>Yes.=C2=A0</div><div><br></div><blockquote cla= ss=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid = rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div><div>And were those really the resu= lts of the poll? </div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>Plus or minus= . It takes a while for the session to be posted, so I don't have the ex= act numbers to hand to verify, but I assume Rich transcribed this in real t= ime.</div><div><br></div><div>=C2=A0</div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote"= style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);p= adding-left:1ex"><div><div>Who proposed a poll where the chairs are being a= sked to =E2=80=9Cgo further than what is right or necessary=E2=80=9D, </div= ></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>The chairs proposed the poll=C2=A0w= ith this wording. There was a bit of discussion about the wording, IIRC, an= d I think people=C2=A0largely understood this to mean that the chairs shoul= d be moderating more actively.</div><div><br></div><div>=C2=A0</div><blockq= uote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1p= x solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div><div>and who=E2=80=99s supp= orting this?</div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>People's indiv= idual positions aren't recorded, but a number of people expressed suppo= rt for more active moderation, including me.</div><div><br></div><br><block= quote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1= px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div><div><div>This is creepy t= o say the least.</div></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>I don= 9;t think so. I would suggest you watch the recording so you can see the di= scussion in context.</div><div><br></div><div>-Ekr</div><div>=C2=A0</div></= div></div> --000000000000622ae60657444051-- --===============0678165163919328384== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 Content-Disposition: inline X19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX18KVExTIG1haWxp bmcgbGlzdCAtLSB0bHNAaWV0Zi5vcmcKVG8gdW5zdWJzY3JpYmUgc2VuZCBhbiBlbWFpbCB0byB0 bHMtbGVhdmVAaWV0Zi5vcmcK --===============0678165163919328384==--