You can't win!
"Charles Lindsey" <[email protected]> Tue, 09 Jun 2009 11:34:51 +0100
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USEPRO (now in AUTH48 before release as an RFC) allows email submission to moderators either with the Newsgroups header amongst the email headers, or with the news article encapsulated entirely within the body of the email (a method which has been used by CNEWS and accepted by many/most moderators for many years). USEPRO has added a Content-Type: application/news-transmission to the email header for the 2nd (encapsulation) method, the idea being that existing moderation software would be MIME-ignorant, ignore that header, and treat it just like it always treated CNEWS encapsulated submissions. Although USEPRO recommends using the first method (since it is better supported by current moderation software), it REQUIRES that moderators accept both. Nevertheless, I have left my CNEWS working the old way, just to monitor how well moderators are tolerating the encapsulated form, and to prod them if needs be. Now I have found two newsgroups where this is not quite working. 1. Newsgroup #1 has correctly implemented recognition of application/news-transmission, but regards absence of that, together with lack of a Newsgroups header in the email headers, as an indication of spam, and sends it to the bit bucket (so discarding CNEWS submissions in the old style). So I upgraded my CNEWS to insert that Content-Type header (so it is now USEPRO compliant), but that created another problem: 2. Newsgroup #2 is unaware of application/news-transmission, but has in the past accepted the original CNEWS format (and still does, AFAIK). However, it is not MIME-ignorant, as we had assumed existing software would be. It first interprets the unrecognized application/news-transmission as application/octet-stream, and then treats application/octet-stream as an indication of a binary, and that newsgroup does not accept binaries. Fortunately, it returns the article to the sender rather than to the bit bucket, so I immediately became aware of the problem. BTW, the moderator of Newsgroup #2 is one tskirvin. So, as the subject says, You Can't Win :-( I think the only way forward is for modertors to be encouraged to start recognizing application/news-transmission. But perhaps some warning in USEPRO might be in order too (which is possible, given we are still in AUTH 48). -- Charles H. Lindsey ---------At Home, doing my own thing------------------------ Tel: +44 161 436 6131 Web: http://www.cs.man.ac.uk/~chl Email: [email protected] Snail: 5 Clerewood Ave, CHEADLE, SK8 3JU, U.K. PGP: 2C15F1A9 Fingerprint: 73 6D C2 51 93 A0 01 E7 65 E8 64 7E 14 A4 AB A5