[DNSOP] Re: (Concluded) RE: Moving DNS64 (RFC6147) to Internet Standard
Philipp Tiesel <[email protected]> Wed, 29 Apr 2026 14:06:02 +0200
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--===============5323459076721840100== Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Apple-Mail=_1DB1D0EE-C903-4E63-ADC4-6977A1304519" --Apple-Mail=_1DB1D0EE-C903-4E63-ADC4-6977A1304519 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Hi Jordi, We might take that chance to include a proper description of local = synthesis into the -bis As it is mostly the same algorithm ad DNS64 without the undesired side = effects.=20 That way, we get a proper reference for Happy Eyeballs instead writing = =E2=80=9Csimilar to bump in the stack=E2=80=9D. Happy to contribute text if there is something to merge it into. AVE! Philipp > On 24. Apr 2026, at 12:44, [email protected] = <[email protected]> wrote: >=20 > Hi Med, >=20 > We are already working in an update of the -bis that we have prepared, = having in mind the recent discussions. >=20 > Regards, > Jordi >=20 > @jordipalet >=20 >=20 >> El 24 abr 2026, a las 12:26, [email protected] escribi=C3=B3= : >>=20 >> Hi all, >> =20 >> Thank you all for the constructive comments and feedback. >> =20 >> There is no consensus to proceed with an administrative status = change. There are some contentious points and other aspects that are = better addressed/clarified by having a bis document. If the original = authors or any other volunteers are interested in that work, note that = this is not covered by V6OPS charter and that work is to be brought to = DNSOP like any other DNS-related individual contribution. >> =20 >> Cheers, >> Med >> =20 >> De : [email protected] = <mailto:[email protected]> <[email protected] = <mailto:[email protected]>> >> Envoy=C3=A9 : jeudi 9 avril 2026 18:19 >> =C3=80 : IPv6 Operations <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>; = dnsop <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>; Brian E Carpenter = <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> >> Objet : [v6ops] Moving DNS64 (RFC6147) to Internet Standard >> =20 >> Hi DNSOP/V6OPS,=20 >> =20 >> V6OPS is in the process of progressing several widely deployed = IPv6-related features into Internet Standard (e.g., [1]). There is an = ongoing WGLC for NAT64 (RFC6146) to move it to IS. Although there is no = strong dependency between NAT64 and DNS64 (RFC6147), DNS64 is usually = deployed in networks that host NAT64. >> =20 >> Brian raised a question about the plan for RFC 6147 [2]. Given that = DNS64 is also widely implemented and deployed and that there is only one = minor erratum that does not impact interop [3], I think that we can = proceed with a status change for RFC6147 and progress NAT64/DNS64 as a = set this round as well. >> =20 >> Please share you thoughts on this plan by 23/04/2026. >> =20 >> Cheers, >> Med >> =20 >> [1] = https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/v6ops/x1UNhtW1qkMpBh_27a1G_4JctHU/ >> =20 >> [2] = https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/v6ops/G35ha3lL_tK2hSWVATiTnPXLaKc/ >> =20 >> [3] https://www.rfc-editor.org/errata/eid2975 >> =20 >> = __________________________________________________________________________= __________________________________ >> Ce message et ses pieces jointes peuvent contenir des informations = confidentielles ou privilegiees et ne doivent donc >> pas etre diffuses, exploites ou copies sans autorisation. 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Merci. >> =20 >> This message and its attachments may contain confidential or = privileged information that may be protected by law; >> they should not be distributed, used or copied without authorisation. >> If you have received this email in error, please notify the sender = and delete this message and its attachments. >> As emails may be altered, Orange is not liable for messages that have = been modified, changed or falsified. >> Thank you. >> = __________________________________________________________________________= __________________________________ >> Ce message et ses pieces jointes peuvent contenir des informations = confidentielles ou privilegiees et ne doivent donc >> pas etre diffuses, exploites ou copies sans autorisation. Si vous = avez recu ce message par erreur, veuillez le signaler >> a l'expediteur et le detruire ainsi que les pieces jointes. 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The information is intended to be for the exclusive use = of the individual(s) named above and further non-explicilty authorized = disclosure, copying, distribution or use of the contents of this = information, even if partially, including attached files, is strictly = prohibited and will be considered a criminal offense. 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There are some contentious = points and other aspects that are better addressed/clarified by having a = bis document. If the original authors or any other volunteers are = interested in that work, note that this is not covered by V6OPS charter = and that work is to be brought to DNSOP like any other DNS-related = individual contribution.<o:p></o:p></span></div><div style=3D"margin: = 0cm; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;"><span = lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-family: "Courier = New";"><o:p> </o:p></span></div><div style=3D"margin: 0cm; = font-size: 11pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;"><span lang=3D"EN-US" = style=3D"font-family: "Courier = New";">Cheers,<o:p></o:p></span></div><div style=3D"margin: 0cm; = font-size: 11pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;"><span lang=3D"EN-US" = style=3D"font-family: "Courier = New";">Med<o:p></o:p></span></div><div style=3D"margin: 0cm; = font-size: 11pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;"><span lang=3D"EN-US" = style=3D"font-family: "Courier = New";"><o:p> </o:p></span></div><div style=3D"border-width: = medium medium medium 1.5pt; border-style: none none none solid; = border-color: currentcolor currentcolor currentcolor blue; border-image: = none; padding: 0cm 0cm 0cm 4pt;"><div><div style=3D"border-width: 1pt = medium medium; border-style: solid none none; border-color: rgb(225, = 225, 225) currentcolor currentcolor; border-image: none; padding: 3pt = 0cm 0cm;"><div style=3D"margin: 0cm; font-size: 11pt; font-family: = Aptos, sans-serif;"><b><span style=3D"font-family: Calibri, = sans-serif;">De :</span></b><span style=3D"font-family: Calibri, = sans-serif;"><span class=3D"Apple-converted-space"> </span><a = href=3D"mailto:[email protected]" style=3D"color: rgb(70, = 120, 134); text-decoration: = underline;">[email protected]</a><span = class=3D"Apple-converted-space"> </span><<a = href=3D"mailto:[email protected]" style=3D"color: rgb(70, = 120, 134); text-decoration: = underline;">[email protected]</a>><br><b>Envoy=C3=A9 :<= /b><span class=3D"Apple-converted-space"> </span>jeudi 9 avril 2026 = 18:19<br><b>=C3=80 :</b><span = class=3D"Apple-converted-space"> </span>IPv6 Operations <<a = href=3D"mailto:[email protected]" style=3D"color: rgb(70, 120, 134); = text-decoration: underline;">[email protected]</a>>; dnsop <<a = href=3D"mailto:[email protected]" style=3D"color: rgb(70, 120, 134); = text-decoration: underline;">[email protected]</a>>; Brian E Carpenter = <<a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]" style=3D"color: = rgb(70, 120, 134); text-decoration: = underline;">[email protected]</a>><br><b>Objet :</b><spa= n class=3D"Apple-converted-space"> </span>[v6ops] Moving DNS64 = (RFC6147) to Internet Standard<o:p></o:p></span></div></div></div><div = style=3D"margin: 0cm; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Aptos, = sans-serif;"><o:p> </o:p></div><div style=3D"margin: 0cm; = font-size: 11pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;"><span = style=3D"font-family: "Courier New";">Hi DNSOP/V6OPS,<span = class=3D"Apple-converted-space"> </span><o:p></o:p></span></div><div = style=3D"margin: 0cm; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Aptos, = sans-serif;"><span style=3D"font-family: "Courier = New";"><o:p> </o:p></span></div><div style=3D"margin: 0cm; = font-size: 11pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;"><span lang=3D"EN-US" = style=3D"font-family: "Courier New";">V6OPS is in the process = of progressing several widely deployed IPv6-related features into = Internet Standard (e.g., [1]). There is an ongoing WGLC for NAT64 = (RFC6146) to move it to IS. Although there is no strong dependency = between NAT64 and DNS64 (RFC6147), DNS64 is usually deployed in networks = that host NAT64.<o:p></o:p></span></div><div style=3D"margin: 0cm; = font-size: 11pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;"><span lang=3D"EN-US" = style=3D"font-family: "Courier = New";"><o:p> </o:p></span></div><div style=3D"margin: 0cm; = font-size: 11pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;"><span lang=3D"EN-US" = style=3D"font-family: "Courier New";">Brian raised a question = about the plan for RFC 6147 [2]. Given that DNS64 is also widely = implemented and deployed and that there is only one minor erratum that = does not impact interop [3], I think that we can proceed with a status = change for RFC6147 and progress NAT64/DNS64 as a set this round as = well.<o:p></o:p></span></div><div style=3D"margin: 0cm; font-size: 11pt; = font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;"><span lang=3D"EN-US" = style=3D"font-family: "Courier = New";"><o:p> </o:p></span></div><div style=3D"margin: 0cm; = font-size: 11pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;"><span lang=3D"EN-US" = style=3D"font-family: "Courier New";">Please share you = thoughts on this plan by 23/04/2026.<o:p></o:p></span></div><div = style=3D"margin: 0cm; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Aptos, = sans-serif;"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-family: "Courier = New";"><o:p> </o:p></span></div><div style=3D"margin: 0cm; = font-size: 11pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;"><span lang=3D"EN-US" = style=3D"font-family: "Courier = New";">Cheers,<o:p></o:p></span></div><div style=3D"margin: 0cm; = font-size: 11pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;"><span lang=3D"EN-US" = style=3D"font-family: "Courier = New";">Med<o:p></o:p></span></div><div style=3D"margin: 0cm; = font-size: 11pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;"><span lang=3D"EN-US" = style=3D"font-family: "Courier = New";"><o:p> </o:p></span></div><div style=3D"margin: 0cm; = font-size: 11pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;"><span lang=3D"EN-US" = style=3D"font-family: "Courier New";">[1]<span = class=3D"Apple-converted-space"> </span><a = href=3D"https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/v6ops/x1UNhtW1qkMpBh_27a1G_4= JctHU/" style=3D"color: rgb(70, 120, 134); text-decoration: = underline;">https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/v6ops/x1UNhtW1qkMpBh_27a= 1G_4JctHU/</a><o:p></o:p></span></div><div style=3D"margin: 0cm; = font-size: 11pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;"><span lang=3D"EN-US" = style=3D"font-family: "Courier = New";"><o:p> </o:p></span></div><div style=3D"margin: 0cm; = font-size: 11pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;"><span lang=3D"EN-US" = style=3D"font-family: "Courier New";">[2]<span = class=3D"Apple-converted-space"> </span><a = href=3D"https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/v6ops/G35ha3lL_tK2hSWVATiTnP= XLaKc/" style=3D"color: rgb(70, 120, 134); text-decoration: = underline;">https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/v6ops/G35ha3lL_tK2hSWVAT= iTnPXLaKc/</a><o:p></o:p></span></div><div style=3D"margin: 0cm; = font-size: 11pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;"><span lang=3D"EN-US" = style=3D"font-family: "Courier = New";"><o:p> </o:p></span></div><div style=3D"margin: 0cm; = font-size: 11pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;"><span lang=3D"EN-US" = style=3D"font-family: "Courier New";">[3]<span = class=3D"Apple-converted-space"> </span><a = href=3D"https://www.rfc-editor.org/errata/eid2975" style=3D"color: = rgb(70, 120, 134); text-decoration: = underline;">https://www.rfc-editor.org/errata/eid2975</a><o:p></o:p></span= ></div><div style=3D"margin: 0cm; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Aptos, = sans-serif;"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-family: "Courier = New";"><o:p> </o:p></span></div><pre style=3D"margin: 0cm 0cm = 0.0001pt; font-size: 10pt; font-family: "Courier = New";">______________________________________________________________= ______________________________________________<o:p></o:p></pre><pre = style=3D"margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 10pt; font-family: = "Courier New";">Ce message et ses pieces jointes peuvent = contenir des informations confidentielles ou privilegiees et ne doivent = donc<o:p></o:p></pre><pre style=3D"margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: = 10pt; font-family: "Courier New";">pas etre diffuses, = exploites ou copies sans autorisation. 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