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Yes, this is already in our internal version which I=E2=80=99m working on, =
also clarifications of issues, deployment scenarios, etc.
I will try to post a draft ASAP.
Tks!
Regards,
Jordi
@jordipalet
> El 29 abr 2026, a las 14:06, Philipp Tiesel <[email protected]> escribi=
=C3=B3:
>=20
> Hi Jordi,
>=20
> We might take that chance to include a proper description of local synthe=
sis into the -bis
> As it is mostly the same algorithm ad DNS64 without the undesired side ef=
fects.=20
> That way, we get a proper reference for Happy Eyeballs instead writing =
=E2=80=9Csimilar to bump in the stack=E2=80=9D.
>=20
> Happy to contribute text if there is something to merge it into.
>=20
> AVE!
> Philipp
>=20
>> On 24. Apr 2026, at 12:44, [email protected] <jordi.palet=3D40c=
[email protected]> wrote:
>>=20
>> Hi Med,
>>=20
>> We are already working in an update of the -bis that we have prepared, h=
aving in mind the recent discussions.
>>=20
>> Regards,
>> Jordi
>>=20
>> @jordipalet
>>=20
>>=20
>>> El 24 abr 2026, a las 12:26, [email protected] escribi=C3=B3=
:
>>>=20
>>> Hi all,
>>> =20
>>> Thank you all for the constructive comments and feedback.
>>> =20
>>> There is no consensus to proceed with an administrative status change. =
There are some contentious points and other aspects that are better address=
ed/clarified by having a bis document. If the original authors or any other=
volunteers are interested in that work, note that this is not covered by V=
6OPS charter and that work is to be brought to DNSOP like any other DNS-rel=
ated individual contribution.
>>> =20
>>> Cheers,
>>> Med
>>> =20
>>> De : [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>=
<[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>
>>> Envoy=C3=A9 : jeudi 9 avril 2026 18:19
>>> =C3=80 : IPv6 Operations <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>; dnso=
p <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>; Brian E Carpenter <brian.e.carp=
[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>
>>> Objet : [v6ops] Moving DNS64 (RFC6147) to Internet Standard
>>> =20
>>> Hi DNSOP/V6OPS,=20
>>> =20
>>> V6OPS is in the process of progressing several widely deployed IPv6-rel=
ated features into Internet Standard (e.g., [1]). There is an ongoing WGLC =
for NAT64 (RFC6146) to move it to IS. Although there is no strong dependenc=
y between NAT64 and DNS64 (RFC6147), DNS64 is usually deployed in networks =
that host NAT64.
>>> =20
>>> Brian raised a question about the plan for RFC 6147 [2]. Given that DNS=
64 is also widely implemented and deployed and that there is only one minor=
erratum that does not impact interop [3], I think that we can proceed with=
a status change for RFC6147 and progress NAT64/DNS64 as a set this round a=
s well.
>>> =20
>>> Please share you thoughts on this plan by 23/04/2026.
>>> =20
>>> Cheers,
>>> Med
>>> =20
>>> [1] https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/v6ops/x1UNhtW1qkMpBh_27a1G_4J=
ctHU/
>>> =20
>>> [2] https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/v6ops/G35ha3lL_tK2hSWVATiTnPX=
LaKc/
>>> =20
>>> [3] https://www.rfc-editor.org/errata/eid2975
>>> =20
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break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;">Yes, =
this is already in our internal version which I=E2=80=99m working on, also =
clarifications of issues, deployment scenarios, etc.<div><br></div><div>I w=
ill try to post a draft ASAP.</div><div><br></div><div>Tks!<br><div><br id=
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<div>Regards,<br>Jordi<br><br>@jordipalet<br><br></div>
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<div><br><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div>El 29 abr 2026, a las 14:06, Philip=
p Tiesel <[email protected]> escribi=C3=B3:</div><br class=3D"Apple-i=
nterchange-newline"><div><meta http-equiv=3D"content-type" content=3D"text/=
html; charset=3Dutf-8"><div style=3D"overflow-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbs=
p-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;">Hi Jordi,<div><br></div><div=
>We might take that chance to include a proper description of local synthes=
is into the -bis</div><div>As it is mostly the same algorithm ad DNS64 with=
out the undesired side effects. </div><div>That way, we get a proper r=
eference for Happy Eyeballs instead writing =E2=80=9Csimilar to bump in the=
stack=E2=80=9D.</div><div><br></div><div>Happy to contribute text if there=
is something to merge it into.</div><div><br></div><div>AVE!</div><div>&nb=
sp; Philipp</div><div><div><br><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div>On 24. =
Apr 2026, at 12:44, [email protected] <jordi.palet=3D40consulin=
[email protected]> wrote:</div><br class=3D"Apple-interchange-newlin=
e"><div><meta http-equiv=3D"content-type" content=3D"text/html; charset=3Du=
tf-8"><div style=3D"overflow-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; li=
ne-break: after-white-space;">Hi Med,<div><br></div><div>We are already wor=
king in an update of the -bis that we have prepared, having in mind the rec=
ent discussions.</div><div><br id=3D"lineBreakAtBeginningOfMessage"><div>
<div>Regards,<br>Jordi<br><br>@jordipalet<br><br></div>
</div>
<div><br><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div>El 24 abr 2026, a las 12:26, mohame=
[email protected] escribi=C3=B3:</div><br class=3D"Apple-interchange-n=
ewline"><div><meta charset=3D"UTF-8"><div class=3D"WordSection1" style=3D"p=
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ont-size: 11pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;"><span style=3D"font-family=
: "Courier New";">Hi all,<o:p></o:p></span></div><div style=3D"ma=
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style=3D"margin: 0cm; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;"><sp=
an lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-family: "Courier New";">Thank you=
all for the constructive comments and feedback.<o:p></o:p></span></div><di=
v style=3D"margin: 0cm; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;"><=
span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-family: "Courier New";"><o:p>&n=
bsp;</o:p></span></div><div style=3D"margin: 0cm; font-size: 11pt; font-fam=
ily: Aptos, sans-serif;"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-family: "C=
ourier New";">There is no consensus to proceed with an administrative =
status change. There are some contentious points and other aspects that are=
better addressed/clarified by having a bis document. If the original autho=
rs or any other volunteers are interested in that work, note that this is n=
ot covered by V6OPS charter and that work is to be brought to DNSOP like an=
y other DNS-related individual contribution.<o:p></o:p></span></div><div st=
yle=3D"margin: 0cm; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;"><span=
lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-family: "Courier New";"><o:p> =
</o:p></span></div><div style=3D"margin: 0cm; font-size: 11pt; font-family:=
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nt-size: 11pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=
=3D"font-family: "Courier New";">Med<o:p></o:p></span></div><div =
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s-serif;">De :</span></b><span style=3D"font-family: Calibri, sans-ser=
if;"><span class=3D"Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href=3D"mailto:m=
[email protected]" style=3D"color: rgb(70, 120, 134); text-decora=
tion: underline;">[email protected]</a><span class=3D"Apple-conv=
erted-space"> </span><<a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]=
m" style=3D"color: rgb(70, 120, 134); text-decoration: underline;">mohamed.=
[email protected]</a>><br><b>Envoy=C3=A9 :</b><span class=3D"App=
le-converted-space"> </span>jeudi 9 avril 2026 18:19<br><b>=C3=80 =
;:</b><span class=3D"Apple-converted-space"> </span>IPv6 Operations &l=
t;<a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]" style=3D"color: rgb(70, 120, 134); text=
-decoration: underline;">[email protected]</a>>; dnsop <<a href=3D"mailt=
o:[email protected]" style=3D"color: rgb(70, 120, 134); text-decoration: under=
line;">[email protected]</a>>; Brian E Carpenter <<a href=3D"mailto:bria=
[email protected]" style=3D"color: rgb(70, 120, 134); text-decoration=
: underline;">[email protected]</a>><br><b>Objet :</b><span=
class=3D"Apple-converted-space"> </span>[v6ops] Moving DNS64 (RFC6147=
) to Internet Standard<o:p></o:p></span></div></div></div><div style=3D"mar=
gin: 0cm; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;"><o:p> </o:=
p></div><div style=3D"margin: 0cm; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Aptos, san=
s-serif;"><span style=3D"font-family: "Courier New";">Hi DNSOP/V6=
OPS,<span class=3D"Apple-converted-space"> </span><o:p></o:p></span></=
div><div style=3D"margin: 0cm; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-se=
rif;"><span style=3D"font-family: "Courier New";"><o:p> </o:=
p></span></div><div style=3D"margin: 0cm; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Apt=
os, sans-serif;"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-family: "Courier N=
ew";">V6OPS is in the process of progressing several widely deployed I=
Pv6-related features into Internet Standard (e.g., [1]). There is an ongoin=
g WGLC for NAT64 (RFC6146) to move it to IS. Although there is no strong de=
pendency between NAT64 and DNS64 (RFC6147), DNS64 is usually deployed in ne=
tworks that host NAT64.<o:p></o:p></span></div><div style=3D"margin: 0cm; f=
ont-size: 11pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=
=3D"font-family: "Courier New";"><o:p> </o:p></span></div><d=
iv style=3D"margin: 0cm; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;">=
<span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-family: "Courier New";">Brian =
raised a question about the plan for RFC 6147 [2]. Given that DNS64 is also=
widely implemented and deployed and that there is only one minor erratum t=
hat does not impact interop [3], I think that we can proceed with a status =
change for RFC6147 and progress NAT64/DNS64 as a set this round as well.<o:=
p></o:p></span></div><div style=3D"margin: 0cm; font-size: 11pt; font-famil=
y: Aptos, sans-serif;"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-family: "Cou=
rier New";"><o:p> </o:p></span></div><div style=3D"margin: 0cm; f=
ont-size: 11pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=
=3D"font-family: "Courier New";">Please share you thoughts on thi=
s plan by 23/04/2026.<o:p></o:p></span></div><div style=3D"margin: 0cm; fon=
t-size: 11pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=
=3D"font-family: "Courier New";"><o:p> </o:p></span></div><d=
iv style=3D"margin: 0cm; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;">=
<span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-family: "Courier New";">Cheers=
,<o:p></o:p></span></div><div style=3D"margin: 0cm; font-size: 11pt; font-f=
amily: Aptos, sans-serif;"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-family: "=
;Courier New";">Med<o:p></o:p></span></div><div style=3D"margin: 0cm; =
font-size: 11pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;"><span lang=3D"EN-US" styl=
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div style=3D"margin: 0cm; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;"=
><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-family: "Courier New";">[1]<s=
pan class=3D"Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href=3D"https://mailarc=
hive.ietf.org/arch/msg/v6ops/x1UNhtW1qkMpBh_27a1G_4JctHU/" style=3D"color: =
rgb(70, 120, 134); text-decoration: underline;">https://mailarchive.ietf.or=
g/arch/msg/v6ops/x1UNhtW1qkMpBh_27a1G_4JctHU/</a><o:p></o:p></span></div><d=
iv style=3D"margin: 0cm; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;">=
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a href=3D"https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/v6ops/G35ha3lL_tK2hSWVATiTn=
PXLaKc/" style=3D"color: rgb(70, 120, 134); text-decoration: underline;">ht=
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