Re: WG ACTION: 2 weeks to discuss [LL53] Forward references requested

I'm neutral about the proposed change.

Philip


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Erik Guttman" <[email protected]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Tuesday, May 04, 2004 11:00 PM
Subject: WG ACTION: 2 weeks to discuss [LL53] Forward references requested


> Please post discussion of this issue to the mailing list over the 
> next two weeks
> ending May 18, 2004.  In order to accept this issued, we will need a strong WG
> consensus given that this is very late in the process.
> 
> Please see http://www.drizzle.org/~aboba/ZEROCONF/issues.html for a list of
> current issues and their status.
> 
> [LL53]
> 
> Description of Issue: Forward references requested
> Submitter Name: Stuart Cheshire
> Submitter Email Address: [email protected]
> Date first submitted: 04 May 04
> Reference:
> Comment Type ['t'ech|'e'dit]: e
> Prio ['S' Must|1 should|2 may]: 1
> Section: 1.3
> Rationale/Explanation:
> Lengthy Description:
> 
> [Stuart]
> 
> >    Link-layer technologies that support ARP but operate at rates below 1
> >    Mbps or latencies above one second may need to specify different
> >    values for the following parameters described in Sections 2.2, 2.3
> >    and 2.4:
> >
> >    (a) the number of, and interval between, ARP probes,
> >    (b) the number of, and interval between, ARP announcements,
> >    (c) the maximum rate at which address claiming may be attempted, and
> >    (d) the time interval between conflicting ARPs below which a host
> >        MUST reconfigure instead of attempting to defend its address.
> 
> Aren't these all now parametrized in Section 9?
> 
> [Erik]
> 
> Yes, they are parameterized there.  However, the text here describes
> what we are doing and why.
> 
> [Stuart]
> 
> Does "the number of, and interval between, ARP probes" refer to
> PROBE_MIN, PROBE_MAX, PROBE_N, or NUM_PROBES? Why not just make it clear?
> 
> [Erik]
> 
>     Which of the following versions do you prefer?
>     See 
> http://www.drizzle.org/~aboba/ZEROCONF/draft-ietf-zeroconf-ipv4-linklocal-15.txt 
> 
>     in order to make sense of the 'Section references'
> 
>      A
> 
>     Link-layer technologies that support ARP but operate at rates below 1
>     Mbps or latencies above one second may need to specify different
>     values for the following parameters described in Sections 2.2.1, 2.4
>     and 2.5:
> 
>     (a) the number of, and interval between, ARP probes,
>     (b) the number of, and interval between, ARP announcements,
>     (c) the maximum rate at which address claiming may be attempted, and
>     (d) the time interval between conflicting ARPs below which a host
>         MUST reconfigure instead of attempting to defend its address.
> 
>      B
> 
>     Link-layer technologies that support ARP but operate at rates below 1
>     Mbps or latencies above one second may need to specify different
>     values for the following parameters.
> 
>     (a) the number of, and interval between, ARP probes
>         See NUM_PROBES, PROBE_MIN, PROBE_MAX defined in section 2.2.1
> 
>     (b) the number of, and interval between, ARP announcements,
>         See ANNOUNCE_N and ANNOUNCE_INTERVAL defined in section 2.4
> 
>     (c) the maximum rate at which address claiming may be attempted
>         See RATE_LIMIT_INTERVAL and MAX_COLLISIONS defined in section 2.2.1
> 
>     (d) the time interval between conflicting ARPs below which a host
>         MUST reconfigure instead of attempting to defend its address
>         See WATCH_WAIT defined in section 2.5
> 
>      Personally I slightly prefer A.  If you have an alternative
>      proposal, please send text.
> 
> Requested Change:
> 
> Sec. 3.1 from
> 
>     Link-layer technologies that support ARP but operate at rates below 1
>     Mbps or latencies above one second may need to specify different
>     values for the following parameters described in Sections 2.2, 2.3
>     and 2.4:
> 
>     (a) the number of, and interval between, ARP probes,
>     (b) the number of, and interval between, ARP announcements,
>     (c) the maximum rate at which address claiming may be attempted, and
>     (d) the time interval between conflicting ARPs below which a host
>         MUST reconfigure instead of attempting to defend its address.
> 
> 
> to
> 
>     Link-layer technologies that support ARP but operate at rates below 1
>     Mbps or latencies above one second may need to specify different
>     values for the following parameters.
> 
>     (a) the number of, and interval between, ARP probes
>         See NUM_PROBES, PROBE_MIN, PROBE_MAX defined in section 2.2.1
> 
>     (b) the number of, and interval between, ARP announcements,
>         See ANNOUNCE_N and ANNOUNCE_INTERVAL defined in section 2.4
> 
>     (c) the maximum rate at which address claiming may be attempted
>         See RATE_LIMIT_INTERVAL and MAX_COLLISIONS defined in section 2.2.1
> 
>     (d) the time interval between conflicting ARPs below which a host
>         MUST reconfigure instead of attempting to defend its address
>         See WATCH_WAIT defined in section 2.5
> 
>