Re: Forky installer speakup does not work after installation but orca does

Speakup works fine in the console on Debian testing.=C2=A0 It is possible I=
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changed something since I installed it a while back.=C2=A0 I assume you=20
installed the 'espeak' package.=C2=A0 Without knowing how you installed it =
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what you did, it is hard to troubleshoot remotely.


On 3/23/26 1:10 PM, Nick Gawronski wrote:
> Hi, Yes I totally understand and this is what I meant when I said that=20
> speakup works much better in the console then orca does in the=20
> graphical terminal.=C2=A0 My issue is that on Forky, if I press control a=
nd=20
> alt and f1 I get no speech from the espeakup software and when working=20
> with the shell I prefer to use the console and not the graphical=20
> terminal application as like I said before orca will read things that=20
> speakup will not as it reads what updates and not what has already=20
> been read.=C2=A0 I prefer working in the text consoles and not the=20
> graphical terminals when I need to use the shell. Nick Gawronski
>
> On 3/23/2026 3:15 AM, D.J.J. Ring, Jr. wrote:
>> As Glenn correctly points out, speakup only works in a console and=20
>> ORCA only works in the graphical user=C2=A0interface (GUI) and opening u=
p=20
>> a text terminal inside the GUI.
>>
>> New comers often mix up running a text terminal in Orca compared with=20
>> directly opening one of the virtual consoles.
>>
>> A console refers to the system's low-level text interface, such as=20
>> virtual consoles (TTYs accessed via Ctrl+Alt+F1-F6), which provide=20
>> direct, full-screen access to the OS kernel and shell without a=20
>> graphical environment.
>>
>> A terminal (or terminal emulator like GNOME Terminal which uses Orca)=20
>> is a graphical windowed application within a desktop environment=20
>> (e.g., opened via Ctrl+Alt+T) that emulates a console, passing input=20
>> to a shell and displaying output.
>>
>> I'm confused if everyone understands the difference because it's easy=20
>> to confuse them but they are two different things.
>>
>> If everyone already knows this,=C2=A0 I apologize, but years ago I thoug=
ht=20
>> orca running GNOME terminal was what people were talking=C2=A0about when=
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>> they mentioned the "console". It isn't,=C2=A0 it is more basic than the=
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>> Graphical User Interface (GUI), it's running underneath the GUI,=20
>> underneath Orca. Open it up as I described in the first paragraph.=20
>> The Graphical environment GUI runs in a console, but the other=20
>> consoles are available for use. Often F1 is the GUI so I proposed=20
>> opening the F3 console. Remember you can only run console apps and=20
>> direct commands in a console but you will notice how much faster it=20
>> is than the GUI and Orca.
>>
>>
>> David Ring
>>
>> On Mon, Mar 23, 2026, 02:05 K0LNY ?? <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 I don't think you would want speakup in a terminal.
>> =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 I am guessing that most people who want Speakup rathe=
r than Orca,
>> =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 call up a
>> =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 console and run Speakup there.
>> =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 Speakup won't really work in a GUI session, which is =
where the
>> =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 terminal is
>> =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 running from.
>> =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 Glenn
>> =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 ----- Original Message -----
>> =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 From: "john doe" <[email protected]=20
>> <mailto:[email protected]>>
>> =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 To: <[email protected] <mailto:de=
bian-
>> =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 [email protected]>>
>> =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 Sent: Monday, March 23, 2026 12:44 AM
>> =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 Subject: Re: Forky installer speakup does not work af=
ter
>> =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 installation but
>> =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 orca does
>>
>>
>> =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 On 3/22/26 20:00, Nick Gawronski wrote:
>> =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 > Hi, I just installed Forky and noticed that o=
rca comes up as=20
>> normal
>> =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 > after the installation in mate but if I try t=
o access just the
>> =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 consoles
>> =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 > I have no speech from speakup what so ever. T=
his should be=20
>> fixed as
>> =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 > that could really be a mess for some users an=
d orca is not the
>> =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 best in
>> =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 > terminal applications.
>> =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 >
>>
>> =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 Why according to you, Orca is not working in the term=
inal?
>>
>> =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 I use Orca in the terminal on a daily bases without p=
roblem.
>>
>> =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 -- =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 John Doe
>>
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